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TRUMP declares NATIONAL EMERGENCY to Build WALL



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/14/us/politics/trump-national-emergency-border.html


Trump Plans National Emergency to Build Border Wall as Congress Passes Spending Bill



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  • Feb. 14, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump will declare a national emergency as early as Friday to bypass Congress and build his long-promised wall along the nation’s southwestern border even as he agreed to sign a spending package that does not finance it, White House officials said Thursday.

The announcement came just minutes before voting began on the spending measure, which then cleared both houses, ending a two-month war of attrition that closed much of the federal government for 35 days and threatened a second shutdown on Friday. The Senate passed it 83 to 16, and the House followed later in the evening, 300 to 128.

But if he declares a national emergency to access billions of dollars for his wall, Mr. Trump could instigate a constitutional clash over who controls the federal purse and test the bounds of presidential authority in a time of divided government. Democrats and some Republicans instantly condemned the move, with some vowing to challenge it through legislation and lawsuits.


Now he's gone and done what he's been threatening to do. A colossal waste of hard earned taxpayer money when border crossings are statistically at a low. Many of us here knew he would be tapping funds when he got elected based on past reckless monetary behavior.Whoever voted for him deserves to suffer for this, but what about the rest of us??? disbelief



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Reply #1 posted 02/15/19 6:07am

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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-national-emergency-border-wall-disaster-funds-1332798



Donald Trump Considers Raiding Disaster Relief Funds to Pay for His Border Wall: Report

As President Donald Trump prepares to declare a controversial national emergency on Friday over the border issue, the White House is reportedly looking at raiding funds approved by Congress to aid those suffering in the devastating aftermath of disasters.

According to Associated Press, which cited unnamed Congressional aides and White House officials, Trump is eyeing up the $13 billion in disaster relief funding split into pots to help Puerto Rico, California, Texas, and other states cope with recent hurricanes, wildfires and flooding.

Under pressure from Republicans to avoid another shutdown, Trump will reluctantly sign off on a bipartisan compromise deal agreed by Congress, which includes more money for border security but only $1.37 billion for 55 miles of new fencing instead of the wall as he envisions it.

But he will simultaneously declare a national emergency, unlocking a suite of presidential powers that allow him to bypass Congress altogether and take money from approve budgets elsewhere, such as for defense spending.


He plans to steal money from FEMA and the military. Where is the outrage from Republicans who "support the troops"? And ANYONE who thinks we don't need disaster relief is a fool.

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Reply #2 posted 02/15/19 6:56am

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I wish I could be a fly on the "wall" sometimes. I quite imagine the conversation going like this:

TRUMP: Why are my ratings going down my gold-plated toilet?!?!?!?!?

TRUMP STAFFER: It's because of your Trump Shutdown over WALL, sir. The public doesn't want this.

TRUMP: Ok, I'll cave. I'm a draft-dodging, wife-cheating pussy anyway. Think Nancy will do me if I cave?

TRUMP STAFFER: I'm sure she will sir (hides laughter). I'll alert the media that we're caving and yet still declaring victory.

TRUMP: Good job, minion! Now, go get Hopey. Where's Hopey?!? I need my Hopey!!

TRUMP STAFFER: She quit sir, and now works for Fox in Los Angeles.

TRUMP: Oh. Well then, I guess it's a day full of Executive Time again.

<THE NEXT WEEK>

TRUMP STAFFER: Good news, sir! The latest Gallup polls shows your approval rating back over 40%. People have forgot about your Trump Shutdown and ensuing WALL debacle. I think you're on the rebound, sir!

TRUMP: I knew it! And just the thing we need to keep it up is for me to declare a fake national emergency, steal money from the military and from states needing disaster recovery, and spend it on WALL!

TRUMP STAFFER: I quit. I wonder if Hopey needs an assistant? I hear LA is nice.

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Reply #3 posted 02/15/19 7:22am

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^^ falloff Hilarious Rodeo, right on target. But it hurts to laugh, and not in a good way...

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Reply #4 posted 02/15/19 7:43am

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Such an emergency - he is talking (yammering) about China and Syria and Korea.

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My son is absolutely convinced we're about to invade Iran and I have to wonder - is this made-up "national emergency" thing a ruse to take our eyes off an invasion of Iran?

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Reply #6 posted 02/15/19 7:46am

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Here it comes... "national secrurity crisis" which was not even on the list of any of the top security leaders as being an issue or threat to this country.


He is lying... again.

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Reply #7 posted 02/15/19 7:46am

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Such an emergency - he is talking (yammering) about China and Syria and Korea.

He is so mentally ill it's astonishing.

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Reply #8 posted 02/15/19 7:49am

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I really hate him, I do. He is a fucking LIAR. Nothing he is saying can be substantiated. Nothing.

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Reply #9 posted 02/15/19 7:50am

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RodeoSchro said:

My son is absolutely convinced we're about to invade Iran and I have to wonder - is this made-up "national emergency" thing a ruse to take our eyes off an invasion of Iran?



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Reply #10 posted 02/15/19 7:53am

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Having these people stand up and hold pictures of their murdered relatives... disbelief


Then China again....


He cannot stick to a topic in a logical linear fashion - lots of blah blah blah





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Reply #11 posted 02/15/19 8:02am

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Netanyahu wanted to invade Iran but Obama stopped that shit. He may try it again to help his ratings like this cynical Trump move, which everybody is clowning on.

The Emergency is the impeachment juice. He's not just here to make Coulter wet.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #12 posted 02/15/19 8:07am

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Trump is a sickening asshole. It turns my stomach to hear him speak.

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Reply #13 posted 02/15/19 8:13am

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Who here is surprised to hear this. Really.

Somehow he always gets what he wants.

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Surprised? No one is - he's been saying he is going to do this - one just hopes that sound-minded people around him will advise him to do the right thing.

He keeps referring to the women he planted in the front row of this conference. The image he is projecting is that brown people are killing blond people. disbelief

whoa... he just said Obama told him was on the verge of going into war with North Korea eek


He is so insecure he needs to compare himself to Obama over and over... rolleyes






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DiminutiveRocker said:

Trump is a sickening asshole. It turns my stomach to hear him speak.


He sounds like a fool in that speech . He made himself look like a fool trying to shut Jim Acosta and other reporters from asking him where he gets his facts, regarding the so-called crime coming from across the border. He was basically telling them to sit down, because he couldn’t answer their questions with facts. He told Jim he is from fake news. What an idiot. It’s embarrassing. Trump is lying his ass off.
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The abortion ban issue...any relation to 2045 or pre-1848?
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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Trump is a sickening asshole. It turns my stomach to hear him speak.

He sounds like a fool in that speech . He made himself look like a fool trying to shut Jim Acosta and other reporters from asking him where he gets his facts, regarding the so-called crime coming from across the border. He was basically telling them to sit down, because he couldn’t answer their questions with facts. He told Jim he is from fake news. What an idiot. It’s embarrassing. Trump is lying his ass off. [Edited 2/15/19 8:29am]

He said he is getting his numbers from "many places... homeland security" but no one presented these dangerously high numbers or stats about the southern border when the national security leaders presented the list of the biggest threats to this country currently.

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Reply #17 posted 02/15/19 9:05am

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13cjk13 said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Such an emergency - he is talking (yammering) about China and Syria and Korea.


He is so mentally ill it's astonishing.

^^ THIS!

The Iran thing is a possibility. Ugh.

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2elijah said:

DiminutiveRocker said: He sounds like a fool in that speech . He made himself look like a fool trying to shut Jim Acosta and other reporters from asking him where he gets his facts, regarding the so-called crime coming from across the border. He was basically telling them to sit down, because he couldn’t answer their questions with facts. He told Jim he is from fake news. What an idiot. It’s embarrassing. Trump is lying his ass off. [Edited 2/15/19 8:29am]

He said he is getting his numbers from "many places... homeland security" but no one presented these dangerously high numbers or stats about the southern border when the national security leaders presented the list of the biggest threats to this country currently.

He is dangerously mentally ill, and is so delusional that he makes up stories and figures to fit the sick narrative running through his addled brain. This dotard needs to be locked in a padded cell for the rest of his life.

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Reply #19 posted 02/15/19 11:04am

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He’s crazy, in his speech this morning, he said he doesn’t know Ann Coulter and then later in his speech, he said he spoke to her sometime last year. Lmao! He doesn’t know ehat he is saying while he is saying it. falloff
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Therer is no crisis wtf??!!! It is all in his head!

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I couldn’t watch the press conference or whatever that was.
What bits I heard were him going batshit crazy and yelling at a reporter to sit down.

I’ll watch clips from the news later. I can only take him in bite size portions
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I couldn’t watch the press conference or whatever that was. What bits I heard were him going batshit crazy and yelling at a reporter to sit down. I’ll watch clips from the news later. I can only take him in bite size portions [Edited 2/15/19 11:46am]

It really is insanity.

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luv4u said:

Therer is no crisis wtf??!!! It is all in his head!


Mental illness - a severe state of narcissism. neutral

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Reply #24 posted 02/15/19 11:59am

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luv4u said:

Therer is no crisis wtf??!!! It is all in his head!




Yes, he said, "I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn't need to do this. But I'd rather do it much faster."

He might have a hard time defending that statement in the multiple lawsuits that are being filed as we speak.

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Reply #25 posted 02/15/19 12:11pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:




2elijah said:


DiminutiveRocker said: He sounds like a fool in that speech . He made himself look like a fool trying to shut Jim Acosta and other reporters from asking him where he gets his facts, regarding the so-called crime coming from across the border. He was basically telling them to sit down, because he couldn’t answer their questions with facts. He told Jim he is from fake news. What an idiot. It’s embarrassing. Trump is lying his ass off. [Edited 2/15/19 8:29am]


He said he is getting his numbers from "many places... homeland security" but no one presented these dangerously high numbers or stats about the southern border when the national security leaders presented the list of the biggest threats to this country currently.



He is dangerously mentally ill, and is so delusional that he makes up stories and figures to fit the sick narrative running through his addled brain. This dotard needs to be locked in a padded cell for the rest of his life.


The real danger is that there's still people who believe him.
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Reply #26 posted 02/15/19 12:13pm

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Pelosi let me down. Thought they were going to reach a deal to at least reduce the amount.

Then again there’s NO ONE who can reason with Trump.

State of Emergency is a joke now. Nothing but a tool for Executive branch to get what his greedy ass wants.

He’ll demand SOME 6 BILLION DOLLARS from the legislation.

I’m all for legal relocation and building more solid, systematical procedure for those who seek to come to this nation from Mexico...but Illegal immigration from central America isn’t even among top 5 national issues. I wonder if it’s even top 10.

I live in DC and this really bothers me. Another sad day for America. But then again we've had so many since he took over White house I'm more numb than bothered I guess.

What's next....god is it 2020 yet.

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13cjk13 said:

He is dangerously mentally ill, and is so delusional that he makes up stories and figures to fit the sick narrative running through his addled brain. This dotard needs to be locked in a padded cell for the rest of his life.

The real danger is that there's still people who believe him.

I know, but at least without him spewing his insanity, the idiots that believe him might crawl back under their rocks and we could work on trying to repair the damage they've done.

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RodeoSchro said:

luv4u said:

Therer is no crisis wtf??!!! It is all in his head!




Yes, he said, "I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn't need to do this. But I'd rather do it much faster."

He might have a hard time defending that statement in the multiple lawsuits that are being filed as we speak.



Good point - the subtext being:

"I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn't need to do this. But I'd rather do it much faster so I will abuse the power of my office to appease my base."

I thought that declaring anything an emergency is for an urgent situation hmmm

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Surprised? No one is - he's been saying he is going to do this - one just hopes that sound-minded people around him will advise him to do the right thing.
He keeps referring to the women he planted in the front row of this conference. The image he is projecting is that brown people are killing blond people. disbelief
whoa... he just said Obama told him was on the verge of going into war with North Korea eek
He is so insecure he needs to compare himself to Obama over and over... :roll

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The only thing I'd give Trump is North Korea. Obama's so called 'strategic patience' didn't do anything but KIM regime to expand and enhance their missiles and nuclear weapons. Trump went hard on N. Korea, tightening US sanctions AND pushing China to lessen trades with N. Korea.
BUT, at the same time, not expecting much from their summit at the end of this month. Unless N.Korea gives up their nuclear weapon no one should trust the country.

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