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Thread started 03/23/20 4:06pm

v10letblues

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2020 Presidential election

The only favor I ask is that personal responses to one another be done via orgnote.

Go wild and send eachother back and forth bickering behind the scenes.

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Also, be cool have a thick skin and move on. Beating a dead horse is not going to help you make your case. You don't "WIN". Nobody "WINS" Let it go


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A very eventful year and god willing the world can go back to normal soon.

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The 2020 election is still scheduled, so we will see.

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Both Biden and Bernie are keeping quiet. The President likewise is mostly sticking to unfolding events.

The campaigning has mostly paused as of this moment.

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Reply #1 posted 03/23/20 11:26pm

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Reply #2 posted 03/24/20 4:33am

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Yes, saw Biden’s video yesterday speaking about how the president should be handling the situation with the coronavirus. He was speaking from his office at home. He will be holding a press conference for his campaign, sometime today. Not sure what time but will look out for that today.
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I'm a lifelong independent voter who always votes 3rd party, usually Libertarian or Green, whenever an option is available. When a 3rd party has not been an option, I have almost always voted Democrat. This year I will be voting a straight Republican ticket. That includes voting for a clown to be re-elected and even worse, voting for a man I have been voting against for decades, a man I loathe, f'ing Mitch McConnell.

Thank Pelosi, Schumer and the entire Democrat leadership, their votes against the stimulus, and their alternate stimulus that puts politics above the health and safety of every American.

The Democrats just killed their own party.

EDIT: BTW, Please do not respond to this post via orgnote. If you want to say something to me that is not civil enough for this thread, I'm not interested.






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Based upon limited in-vitro and anecdotal data, chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine are currently recommended for treatment of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in several countries.
https://www.cdc.gov/coron...tions.html
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Reply #4 posted 03/24/20 8:47am

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I think people are going to see that this administration couldn't handle a serious emergency situation and will just give them a hard pass.

They have blown it by every conceivable metric.

djThunderfunk said:

I'm a lifelong independent voter who always votes 3rd party, usually Libertarian or Green, whenever an option is available. When a 3rd party has not been an option, I have almost always voted Democrat. This year I will be voting a straight Republican ticket. That includes voting for a clown to be re-elected and even worse, voting for a man I have been voting against for decades, a man I loathe, f'ing Mitch McConnell.

Thank Pelosi, Schumer and the entire Democrat leadership, their votes against the stimulus, and their alternate stimulus that puts politics above the health and safety of every American.

The Democrats just killed their own party.




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Reply #5 posted 03/24/20 1:36pm

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Biden was on CNN and he seemed fine. Was asked they various questions regarding the coronavirus and he was able to answer that he believes Trump should let the experts speak and follow their advice And should be forceful in sourcing and delivering the medical equipment and supplies we need.

Nothing controversial and no major gaffes, but also not fluid and charismatic on the same level as Gov Cuomo or Bernie.

Also as I've mentioned, i think he should tread lightly and not use a developing national health emergency as political theater. Which he didn't.

I think overall he did fine.

[Edited 3/24/20 13:37pm]

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Reply #6 posted 03/24/20 3:27pm

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v10letblues said:

I think people are going to see that this administration couldn't handle a serious emergency situation and will just give them a hard pass.

They have blown it by every conceivable metric.


Where is the logic in first criticizing the administration for not doing enough, and now criticizing the administration for doing too much?

Please explain.

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Reply #7 posted 03/24/20 3:46pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

v10letblues said:

I think people are going to see that this administration couldn't handle a serious emergency situation and will just give them a hard pass.

They have blown it by every conceivable metric.


Where is the logic in first criticizing the administration for not doing enough, and now criticizing the administration for doing too much?

Please explain.

Making up your own arguments? What?

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Reply #8 posted 03/24/20 3:52pm

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v10letblues said:

Pokeno4Money said:


Where is the logic in first criticizing the administration for not doing enough, and now criticizing the administration for doing too much?

Please explain.

Making up your own arguments? What?

IMO - The adminstraton did not act fast enough, especially the potus who is ON RECORD for saying this virus was a hoax. This was perpetuated by Fox News. Scores of people polled did not believe the virus was a threat at all.

Who said they are doing too much? spit

"Suddenly the whole nation is depending on the very people they don't believe should make $15/hour"
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Reply #9 posted 03/24/20 4:06pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

v10letblues said:

Making up your own arguments? What?

IMO - The adminstraton did not act fast enough, especially the potus who is ON RECORD for saying this virus was a hoax. This was perpetuated by Fox News. Scores of people polled did not believe the virus was a threat at all.

Who said they are doing too much? spit

Exactly and now there are reports that the administration is trying to blanket the media with their own "version" of events by omitting facts and the presidents own statements.

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Funny how the partisans are on the ball, hustling trying to float this narrative

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Reply #10 posted 03/24/20 4:15pm

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v10letblues said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

IMO - The adminstraton did not act fast enough, especially the potus who is ON RECORD for saying this virus was a hoax. This was perpetuated by Fox News. Scores of people polled did not believe the virus was a threat at all.

Who said they are doing too much? spit

Exactly and now there are reports that the administration is trying to blanket the media with their own "version" of events by omitting facts and the presidents own statements.

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Funny how the partisans are on the ball, hustling trying to float this narrative


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Reply #11 posted 03/24/20 4:29pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

v10letblues said:

Exactly and now there are reports that the administration is trying to blanket the media with their own "version" of events by omitting facts and the presidents own statements.

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Funny how the partisans are on the ball, hustling trying to float this narrative


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As most news organizations started publishing timelines on Trump's fail fueled response to the Coronovirus, the administration along with right wing outlets jumped in to spread their own Fox News timeline of events.

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Reply #12 posted 03/24/20 4:38pm

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Hillary Clinton on Trump's science cred

”Please do not take medical advice from a man who looked directly at a solar eclipse,” Clinton wrote on Twitter.

Donald Trump

President Donald Trump looks up toward the solar eclipse while joined by his wife first lady Melania Trump at the White House on Aug. 21, 2017. | Mark Wilson/Getty Images

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Reply #13 posted 03/24/20 5:08pm

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v10letblues said:

Hillary Clinton on Trump's science cred

”Please do not take medical advice from a man who looked directly at a solar eclipse,” Clinton wrote on Twitter.

Donald Trump

President Donald Trump looks up toward the solar eclipse while joined by his wife first lady Melania Trump at the White House on Aug. 21, 2017. | Mark Wilson/Getty Images



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Reply #14 posted 03/24/20 8:19pm

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v10letblues said:

Pokeno4Money said:


Where is the logic in first criticizing the administration for not doing enough, and now criticizing the administration for doing too much?

Please explain.

Making up your own arguments? What?


You said "They have blown it by every conceivable metric."

So once again you refuse to give the administration any credit whatsoever.

I've already said they were slow to act at first, but ever since they've done a much better job ... and that's obviously reflected in the most recent polls that you hold in such high esteem.




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Reply #15 posted 03/24/20 8:26pm

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v10letblues said:

DiminutiveRocker said:


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As most news organizations started publishing timelines on Trump's fail fueled response to the Coronovirus, the administration along with right wing outlets jumped in to spread their own Fox News timeline of events.

Fox News is culpable of driving the same narrative as Trump, that the virus was nothing but a hoax or blown out of proportion by "the media".

Aren't people tired of this bullshit being touted by Trump and Fox? Even if it means that you could possibly get sick and (if you're at risk) die because of it?

disbelief Unfuckingbelievable.

"Suddenly the whole nation is depending on the very people they don't believe should make $15/hour"
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Reply #16 posted 03/24/20 8:38pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

v10letblues said:

Making up your own arguments? What?


You said "They have blown it by every conceivable metric."

So once again you refuse to give the administration any credit whatsoever.



What are you talking about. I gave them all the credit for blowing it.

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Reply #17 posted 03/24/20 8:40pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

v10letblues said:

As most news organizations started publishing timelines on Trump's fail fueled response to the Coronovirus, the administration along with right wing outlets jumped in to spread their own Fox News timeline of events.

Fox News is culpable of driving the same narrative as Trump, that the virus was nothing but a hoax or blown out of proportion by "the media".

Aren't people tired of this bullshit being touted by Trump and Fox? Even if it means that you could possibly get sick and (if you're at risk) die because of it?

disbelief Unfuckingbelievable.

Absolutely. It's coordinated

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Reply #18 posted 03/24/20 8:47pm

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v10letblues said:

Pokeno4Money said:


You said "They have blown it by every conceivable metric."

So once again you refuse to give the administration any credit whatsoever.



What are you talking about. I gave them all the credit for blowing it.


LOL ... too funny. wink

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Reply #19 posted 03/24/20 11:31pm

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v10letblues said:

Pokeno4Money said:


You said "They have blown it by every conceivable metric."

So once again you refuse to give the administration any credit whatsoever.



What are you talking about. I gave them all the credit for blowing it.


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Reply #20 posted 03/25/20 3:56am

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This chart shows the US is faring far better than most other countries, for those who want to see how well the current administration is handling the situation.


Image result for coronavirus progression

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Reply #21 posted 03/25/20 4:28am

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^^ LOL I'm sure Fox tells you that, right? did they paint that neat chart? or did fatfuck use his sharpie again to correct it? it's a miracle, it goes away just like he predicted!! LMFAO



this chart shows the US line from March 2 until March 12 or 13 (!!!), when you had below 2000 cases. and your "preparation" was to not have enuff tests at hand, so statistics will keep automatically low LOL but this "preparation" was not intentional, it was caused only by incompetence and a fucked up inefficient health care system.

so does Fox or their dumbed down bots not have any more RECENT statistics?? heaven help... the US already hit 55,000 by now. Duh!
the delay was only becasue you startet that shit later than China, Italy or others, cause there is a big fucking ocean between us. Thank you Trump!!!!!
yet all the additional time you had for preparation was wasted by worthless fatfuck



but I agree, if I cut out all the inconveniant numbers and data points in a chart, then it looks way better LMFAO you are quite an intellectual delight LOL

MAGA idiocy at its "best"






look here clown, click at the countries and compare the numbers in the chart down on the right

you currently have a doubling rate for just a bit over 2 days, way more than basically all other countries, more than Italy ever had
you are going down in flames.
that is a shame.
ahh naw it's not. as long as the eceonomy is okay, who the fuck really cares?


I just hope that orange fatfuck gets it too and dies hopefully a slow and paiunful death on some filthy hospital bathroom floor cause all the beds are already taken




[Edited 3/25/20 8:38am]

Ideally speaking, the President of the United States and the dumbest person in the country would be two different people. Oh well.... money can't fix stupid
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Reply #22 posted 03/25/20 9:19am

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BombSquad said:

^^ LOL I'm sure Fox tells you that, right? did they paint that neat chart? or did fatfuck use his sharpie again to correct it? it's a miracle, it goes away just like he predicted!! LMFAO



this chart shows the US line from March 2 until March 12 or 13 (!!!), when you had below 2000 cases. and your "preparation" was to not have enuff tests at hand, so statistics will keep automatically low LOL but this "preparation" was not intentional, it was caused only by incompetence and a fucked up inefficient health care system.

so does Fox or their dumbed down bots not have any more RECENT statistics?? heaven help... the US already hit 55,000 by now. Duh!
the delay was only becasue you startet that shit later than China, Italy or others, cause there is a big fucking ocean between us. Thank you Trump!!!!!
yet all the additional time you had for preparation was wasted by worthless fatfuck



but I agree, if I cut out all the inconveniant numbers and data points in a chart, then it looks way better LMFAO you are quite an intellectual delight LOL

MAGA idiocy at its "best"






look here clown, click at the countries and compare the numbers in the chart down on the right

you currently have a doubling rate for just a bit over 2 days, way more than basically all other countries, more than Italy ever had
you are going down in flames.
that is a shame.
ahh naw it's not. as long as the eceonomy is okay, who the fuck really cares?


I just hope that orange fatfuck gets it too and dies hopefully a slow and paiunful death on some filthy hospital bathroom floor cause all the beds are already taken




[Edited 3/25/20 8:38am]

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Reply #23 posted 03/25/20 12:10pm

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BombSquad said:

^^ LOL I'm sure Fox tells you that, right? did they paint that neat chart? or did fatfuck use his sharpie again to correct it? it's a miracle, it goes away just like he predicted!! LMFAO



this chart shows the US line from March 2 until March 12 or 13 (!!!), when you had below 2000 cases. and your "preparation" was to not have enuff tests at hand, so statistics will keep automatically low LOL but this "preparation" was not intentional, it was caused only by incompetence and a fucked up inefficient health care system.

so does Fox or their dumbed down bots not have any more RECENT statistics?? heaven help... the US already hit 55,000 by now. Duh!
the delay was only becasue you startet that shit later than China, Italy or others, cause there is a big fucking ocean between us. Thank you Trump!!!!!
yet all the additional time you had for preparation was wasted by worthless fatfuck



but I agree, if I cut out all the inconveniant numbers and data points in a chart, then it looks way better LMFAO you are quite an intellectual delight LOL

MAGA idiocy at its "best"






look here clown, click at the countries and compare the numbers in the chart down on the right

you currently have a doubling rate for just a bit over 2 days, way more than basically all other countries, more than Italy ever had
you are going down in flames.
that is a shame.
ahh naw it's not. as long as the eceonomy is okay, who the fuck really cares?


I just hope that orange fatfuck gets it too and dies hopefully a slow and paiunful death on some filthy hospital bathroom floor cause all the beds are already taken




[Edited 3/25/20 8:38am]


*thanks for that link*

Yep - I am going to go with the WHO (band and health org) and the CDC and Dr Fauci and Bozo the Clown before I adhere to ANYTHING Fox News reports. smile





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Reply #24 posted 03/25/20 12:16pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

v10letblues said:

As most news organizations started publishing timelines on Trump's fail fueled response to the Coronovirus, the administration along with right wing outlets jumped in to spread their own Fox News timeline of events.

Fox News is culpable of driving the same narrative as Trump, that the virus was nothing but a hoax or blown out of proportion by "the media".

Aren't people tired of this bullshit being touted by Trump and Fox? Even if it means that you could possibly get sick and (if you're at risk) die because of it?

disbelief Unfuckingbelievable.

What did PT Barnum (and I'm sure Trump) said : "There's a sucker born every minute"

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DiminutiveRocker said:



BombSquad said:


^^ LOL I'm sure Fox tells you that, right? did they paint that neat chart? or did fatfuck use his sharpie again to correct it? it's a miracle, it goes away just like he predicted!! LMFAO





this chart shows the US line from March 2 until March 12 or 13 (!!!), when you had below 2000 cases. and your "preparation" was to not have enuff tests at hand, so statistics will keep automatically low LOL but this "preparation" was not intentional, it was caused only by incompetence and a fucked up inefficient health care system.

so does Fox or their dumbed down bots not have any more RECENT statistics?? heaven help... the US already hit 55,000 by now. Duh!
the delay was only becasue you startet that shit later than China, Italy or others, cause there is a big fucking ocean between us. Thank you Trump!!!!!
yet all the additional time you had for preparation was wasted by worthless fatfuck



but I agree, if I cut out all the inconveniant numbers and data points in a chart, then it looks way better LMFAO you are quite an intellectual delight LOL

MAGA idiocy at its "best"







look here clown, click at the countries and compare the numbers in the chart down on the right

you currently have a doubling rate for just a bit over 2 days, way more than basically all other countries, more than Italy ever had
you are going down in flames.
that is a shame.
ahh naw it's not. as long as the eceonomy is okay, who the fuck really cares?


I just hope that orange fatfuck gets it too and dies hopefully a slow and paiunful death on some filthy hospital bathroom floor cause all the beds are already taken








[Edited 3/25/20 8:38am]




*thanks for that link*

Yep - I am going to go with the WHO (band and health org) and the CDC and Dr Fauci and Bozo the Clown before I adhere to ANYTHING Fox News reports. smile





[Edited 3/25/20 12:11pm]


I second that. nod
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Reply #26 posted 03/25/20 3:39pm

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Is it me, or is Trump using the daily Covid-19 press conferences as a campaign platform? neutral


side note: Pence reminds me of those animatronic things one sees at Disneyland

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BombSquad said:

^^ LOL I'm sure Fox tells you that, right? did they paint that neat chart?


You can find it on the NY Times website, and several other places. But knowing how you feel about America, why bother?

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Pokeno4Money said:

BombSquad said:

^^ LOL I'm sure Fox tells you that, right? did they paint that neat chart?


You can find it on the NY Times website, and several other places. But knowing how you feel about America, why bother?


Provide a current link (within the last two days) of this exact information you posted on that chart (with no link) from the NYT, please.

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DiminutiveRocker said:

Pokeno4Money said:


You can find it on the NY Times website, and several other places. But knowing how you feel about America, why bother?


Provide a current link (within the last two days) of this exact information you posted on that chart (with no link) from the NYT, please.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/21/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-by-country.html


It's the most recent one available.



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