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Reply #90 posted 03/09/19 10:06am

luvsexy4all

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

luvsexy4all said:

now u will seehow important it is to see Prince as a work-in-progress....look how he matured spiritually and sexually thru his life (as we know it)

A very good point. Your point is very valid through the lense of his art & likewise very valid to the point of my original thread. Being honest i think its well evidenced beyong all reasonable doubt that in real life he was a player to the end!...with a trail of broken hearts left behind.

broken hearts r not just a thing out of players

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Reply #91 posted 03/11/19 11:15am

laytonian

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Why? Why???!

God I can't take all this WOKE bullshit!!

I GUARANTEE if we looked into YOUR life we'd find plenty to condemn you about in this hypersensitive bullshit environment.

Plus let's analyze EVERY movie and song that doesn't fit into today's environment and we'd be left with....nothing but boring boring things.

As a matter of fact cry we'd condemn every living being if we looked into every moment of a person's existence.

lockdance

[Edited 3/4/19 13:33pm]

Had complaints filed against you, eh?

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Reply #92 posted 03/11/19 11:27am

onlyforaminute

I think everyone should be tried in the court of public opinion.

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Reply #93 posted 03/11/19 11:32am

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onlyforaminute said:

I think everyone should be tried in the court of public opinion.

razz No thanks.

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Reply #94 posted 03/11/19 12:05pm

pricetag

purplethunder3121 said:

onlyforaminute said:

I think everyone should be tried in the court of public opinion.

razz No thanks.

Ok, I'll be the one to say it..they were joking. I guess this is problem to begin with, though, isn't? People's interpretations of what's being said/ done (or lack thereof).

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Reply #95 posted 03/11/19 12:12pm

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pricetag said:

purplethunder3121 said:

razz No thanks.

Ok, I'll be the one to say it..they were joking. I guess this is problem to begin with, though, isn't? People's interpretations of what's being said/ done (or lack thereof).

It's quite clear that he was joking. Didn't need your commentary for that.

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Reply #96 posted 03/11/19 12:33pm

AnnaSantana

Aaaand here we go with the shit-stirring... rolleyes

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Reply #97 posted 03/11/19 6:55pm

onlyforaminute

pricetag said:



purplethunder3121 said:




onlyforaminute said:


I think everyone should be tried in the court of public opinion.



razz No thanks.



Ok, I'll be the one to say it..they were joking. I guess this is problem to begin with, though, isn't? People's interpretations of what's being said/ done (or lack thereof).




She picked up on my queues I was joking and I also picked up quite plainly in her response she understood I was just joking. But thank you for the support.
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Reply #98 posted 03/20/19 8:33pm

206Michelle

emesem said:

Even in 1984, his treatment of women was questioned. See the dumpster scene in PR. Wendy's BJ act. and even the "Gangsta Glam" era "You, you and you get in the car!" etc...



As he got older, you can see he got much better. (see Better with Time, work with 3rd Eye Girl)

[Edited 3/1/19 7:24am]


I appreciate the point about how as he got older, his music was more respectful of/less disrespectful toward women.
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The dumpster scene in PR has always bothered me. I don’t know who called the shots about hat scene (Prince, Magnoli, someone else).

I think that the messages/attitudes toward women in his music from the 1980s and 90s are well within the average/normal range when compared with his peers contemporaries. He certainly pushed the envelope on sexual content, but I don’t think he pushed the envelope on misogyny. He frequently made himself into a sex object, e.g. When Doves Cry video.
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Reply #99 posted 03/20/19 11:53pm

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laytonian said:

Had complaints filed against you, eh?


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Reply #100 posted 03/21/19 12:39pm

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I always sensed Prince had a chauvinistic streak though.
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Reply #101 posted 03/21/19 5:50pm

onlyforaminute

206Michelle said:

emesem said:

Even in 1984, his treatment of women was questioned. See the dumpster scene in PR. Wendy's BJ act. and even the "Gangsta Glam" era "You, you and you get in the car!" etc...

As he got older, you can see he got much better. (see Better with Time, work with 3rd Eye Girl)

[Edited 3/1/19 7:24am]

I appreciate the point about how as he got older, his music was more respectful of/less disrespectful toward women. . The dumpster scene in PR has always bothered me. I don’t know who called the shots about hat scene (Prince, Magnoli, someone else). I think that the messages/attitudes toward women in his music from the 1980s and 90s are well within the average/normal range when compared with his peers contemporaries. He certainly pushed the envelope on sexual content, but I don’t think he pushed the envelope on misogyny. He frequently made himself into a sex object, e.g. When Doves Cry video.



It was controversial back when it was just a concept on paper, I hear quite a few WB eyebrows were raised, but (imho) it does the trick of letting you know Morris' character and it makes a bigger punch when you see he does have a conscious. If everybody played "nice and pc" it would have been a boring movie. I hate to say it in light of everything now but it is a fact, MJ had the goodie 2 shoes image cornered back then. Prince was "Rude Boy". It was intentional to the image, nobody NOW is making some grand discovery.






[Edited 3/21/19 17:53pm]

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Reply #102 posted 03/21/19 6:21pm

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FullLipsDotNose said:

"A girl with guitar is twelve times better than another crazy band of boys

Tryna be a star in a misogynistic wall of noise"

yeahthat

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


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Reply #103 posted 03/22/19 8:06am

Rimshottbob

onlyforaminute said:

206Michelle said:

emesem said: I appreciate the point about how as he got older, his music was more respectful of/less disrespectful toward women. . The dumpster scene in PR has always bothered me. I don’t know who called the shots about hat scene (Prince, Magnoli, someone else). I think that the messages/attitudes toward women in his music from the 1980s and 90s are well within the average/normal range when compared with his peers contemporaries. He certainly pushed the envelope on sexual content, but I don’t think he pushed the envelope on misogyny. He frequently made himself into a sex object, e.g. When Doves Cry video.



It was controversial back when it was just a concept on paper, I hear quite a few WB eyebrows were raised, but (imho) it does the trick of letting you know Morris' character and it makes a bigger punch when you see he does have a conscious. If everybody played "nice and pc" it would have been a boring movie. I hate to say it in light of everything now but it is a fact, MJ had the goodie 2 shoes image cornered back then. Prince was "Rude Boy". It was intentional to the image, nobody NOW is making some grand discovery.






[Edited 3/21/19 17:53pm]

Yeah, that scene in Purple Rain is played for comedy. And is designed to show that Morris is an asshole. Really not a big deal. At no point is it suggested that chucking a woman in a dumpster is normal behaviour.

People are waaaaaay too thin-skinned and precious these days.

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Reply #104 posted 03/22/19 8:35am

onlyforaminute

Rimshottbob said:



onlyforaminute said:




206Michelle said:


emesem said: I appreciate the point about how as he got older, his music was more respectful of/less disrespectful toward women. . The dumpster scene in PR has always bothered me. I don’t know who called the shots about hat scene (Prince, Magnoli, someone else). I think that the messages/attitudes toward women in his music from the 1980s and 90s are well within the average/normal range when compared with his peers contemporaries. He certainly pushed the envelope on sexual content, but I don’t think he pushed the envelope on misogyny. He frequently made himself into a sex object, e.g. When Doves Cry video.



It was controversial back when it was just a concept on paper, I hear quite a few WB eyebrows were raised, but (imho) it does the trick of letting you know Morris' character and it makes a bigger punch when you see he does have a conscious. If everybody played "nice and pc" it would have been a boring movie. I hate to say it in light of everything now but it is a fact, MJ had the goodie 2 shoes image cornered back then. Prince was "Rude Boy". It was intentional to the image, nobody NOW is making some grand discovery.







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Yeah, that scene in Purple Rain is played for comedy. And is designed to show that Morris is an asshole. Really not a big deal. At no point is it suggested that chucking a woman in a dumpster is normal behaviour.



People are waaaaay too thin-skinned and precious these days.


Its an image design to entertain people obviously it worked here we are.
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