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Reply #120 posted 10/18/19 6:44pm

AvocadosMax

Maybe they’ll release an ‘Acoustic Demos’ album next year? Nothing Compares 2 U was a surprise release that made it on Originals. It could be my high hopes but I think I see a pattern here
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Reply #121 posted 10/18/19 7:00pm

mELdOURADOsELV
AGEM

[Snip - luv4u]

My mind is playing tricks on me.
Funny how a recording can bring that person back to life in one's mind,
at the same time U know it isn't true.
mushy
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Reply #122 posted 10/18/19 7:16pm

rdhull

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Damn. Just think of the things to come.

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #123 posted 10/18/19 7:24pm

jdcxc

Genesia said:



TheEnglishGent said:




Kares said:



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If we disregard all the reasoning above, the only way to decide is to compare the two versions and trying to tell which one will give you a more natural sounding human voice (and it's harder with falsetto vocals).
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In case of professional studio tapes: they should contain reference tone(s) (at least a 1kHz sine wave) so when they are played back on another machine, the speed can be calibrated to match the correct speed of the recording.
But knowing how fast Prince worked, I'm not sure if his engineers/technicians always had the time to follow industry standards in this regard so most probably there are a lot of master tapes without reference tones in is vault.
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You're talking about master tapes but isn't this demo something Prince just recorded straight onto a standard consumer audio casette, C90 or similar? Feels wrong to be talking about professional studio tapes when that isn't relevant to this release.

Do we know where this was recorded? I assume without any engineers or technicians present? Maybe Prince just had a guitar handy, picked it up and started strumming his idea in his bedroom? That being the case, this was never intended for anyone to hear, let alone to be released. Isn't it just an idea on a 'notepad' for him to refer back to later in the studio. In which case, there's no reason for him to have worried about tuning his guitar if all he wanted to do was get his idea down.

When you're working with consumer grade tapes there's always margin for error. I know that there's no doubt on the technically correct speed when matching it to the released studio version, but that doesn't mean that Prince had to record his original idea in the same key.

Anyway, for me and my inexact ear this is a great release. I'm very happy to hear this and glad the estate have decided to release it. Let's hope we get more regular surprise releases of this nature.






Amen to every word of this.



Yes...beautiful, perfect.
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Reply #124 posted 10/18/19 7:27pm

jdcxc

Great little NyTimes review...

https://www.nytimes.com/2...perry.html
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Reply #125 posted 10/18/19 11:44pm

MoodyBlumes

It's interesting to read perspectives on technical issues with releases. I remembered an anecdote from Larry Williams, the saxophonist who played on 'The Glamorous Life':

"He just kept pushing me to be as creative as possible. He wanted each track more out of tune, because it was sounding too slick for him. He wanted it to sound more of a street sound, less slick... It was one of the highlights of my career, not just the way it turned out or the way it sold, but the actual process of recording it." p. 200, Prince and the Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions: 1983 and 1984

https://books.google.ca/b...mp;f=false

Larry Williams

http://willyworldmusic.com/

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Reply #126 posted 10/19/19 12:05am

SchlomoThaHomo

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Fantastic surprise, and please keep them coming! His rhythm playing was sick even very early on.

The original version as the b-side even sounded slightly different to me but I couldn’t tell if it was just because I haven’t listened to it in awhile or what.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #127 posted 10/19/19 7:36am

mbdtyler

Oh damn, I love this! Might be my favorite version of the song.
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Reply #128 posted 10/19/19 7:39am

Hamad

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The sound recording button in the beginning brought me back to the little acoustic gems he recorded before that time such as "Nightingale" and "I Spend My Time Loving You" etc which I'm a huge fan of. Great unexpected birthday present smile Thanks for posting!

Every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future...

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Reply #129 posted 10/19/19 8:52am

Blueser100

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I love it. Purple vinyl 7" on the way.

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Reply #130 posted 10/19/19 9:02am

mnfriend

One of my first fav P songs.

Hearing acoustic demo version for the first time, gasped at his talent. Love it. Oh Prince.

thanks to whomever let it out today.

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Reply #131 posted 10/19/19 9:18am

Farfunknugin

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jdcxc said:

Great little NyTimes review...

https://www.nytimes.com/2...perry.html

I would love to read it but can't due to the damn subscription fee pop up.
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Reply #132 posted 10/19/19 9:21am

mnfriend

Farfunknugin said:

jdcxc said:
Great little NyTimes review... https://www.nytimes.com/2...perry.html
I would love to read it but can't due to the damn subscription fee pop up.

It is only a paragraph (no purple secrets to share) here it is:

"It’s perfectly obvious that Prince’s 1979 acoustic demo for “I Feel for You” — which originally appeared on his self-titled debut album, and went to No. 3 on the Billboard Hot 100 when Chaka Khan recorded it in 1984 — would be stunning. Here is Prince singing sweetly but softly, and playing a more intricate rhythmic line on guitar than the eventual popularized version had room for. And yet after those first two minutes comes two and a half minutes of something else: pure vamping, light scat singing, an easy lesson in getting lost in the rhythm. The first part of this recording has the affirming feel of the familiar; this second part is full of hope for things not yet — and maybe never to be — heard."JON CARAMANICA

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Reply #133 posted 10/19/19 9:30am

mnfriend

masaba said:

I love it. I love prince.


yes yes

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Reply #134 posted 10/19/19 11:56am

jfenster

the trend is his unreleased versions r betta than album versions

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Reply #135 posted 10/19/19 1:22pm

Flirt1

I love this music.
It is so interesting to read the comments on pitch,key,tempo,etc. I feel it is art not science in the hands of a musician who loses himself in the act of creation.
Do you think Prince was ever in awe of his gift and frankly..scared?
Love to All.
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Reply #136 posted 10/19/19 2:29pm

Flirt1

eyewishuheaven said:

I love how you can hear his foot tappin' on the floor...


I love it too!
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Reply #137 posted 10/19/19 3:37pm

jdcxc

mnfriend said:



Farfunknugin said:


jdcxc said:
Great little NyTimes review... https://www.nytimes.com/2...perry.html

I would love to read it but can't due to the damn subscription fee pop up.


It is only a paragraph (no purple secrets to share) here it is:



"It’s perfectly obvious that Prince’s 1979 acoustic demo for “I Feel for You” — which originally appeared on his self-titled debut album, and went to No. 3 on the Billboard Hot 100 when Chaka Khan recorded it in 1984 — would be stunning. Here is Prince singing sweetly but softly, and playing a more intricate rhythmic line on guitar than the eventual popularized version had room for. And yet after those first two minutes comes two and a half minutes of something else: pure vamping, light scat singing, an easy lesson in getting lost in the rhythm. The first part of this recording has the affirming feel of the familiar; this second part is full of hope for things not yet — and maybe never to be — heard."JON CARAMANICA



Even the NYTimes screws up the DEBUT album thing. 😂
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Reply #138 posted 10/19/19 4:47pm

SquirrelMeat

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I really glad this is released, but it does shed a bit of light on the intentions o the Estate.

Michael Howe previous stated that they were only going to release things that seemed finished, and through the prism of 'Would Prince choose to release this?".

I can't Prince choosing to release a cassette tape demo as a single. Even Dirty Mind was not demos, and that is is rawest release.

Like I said, I think it should all come out, and trying to second guess what Prince would have wanted is an impossible task, but this clearly goes against the Estates previous ethos.


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Reply #139 posted 10/19/19 6:15pm

sulls

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LOVING THIS! Ordered my copy.
"I like to watch."
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Reply #140 posted 10/20/19 5:08am

bsprout

jdcxc said:

Great little NyTimes review...

https://www.nytimes.com/2...perry.html

Thank you for sharing this- I get the Times but was out of town and probably wouldn’t have seen it otherwise. It’s nice to know the Times’ leading music critics are raving about this single, and lamenting that we may not ever hear more (unreleased stuff). Hopefully the music media will continue to make statements like these and the estate will be inspired, for whatever it’s worth.
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Reply #141 posted 10/20/19 6:46am

antonb

SquirrelMeat said:

I really glad this is released, but it does shed a bit of light on the intentions o the Estate.

Michael Howe previous stated that they were only going to release things that seemed finished, and through the prism of 'Would Prince choose to release this?".

I can't Prince choosing to release a cassette tape demo as a single. Even Dirty Mind was not demos, and that is is rawest release.

Like I said, I think it should all come out, and trying to second guess what Prince would have wanted is an impossible task, but this clearly goes against the Estates previous ethos.


I agree, but my goodness, there is so many demos etc in the vault, surely there not going to just release the odd one every now and again! That would be daylight robbery!

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Reply #142 posted 10/21/19 8:47pm

BanishedBrian

If Prince could stll post on the Org, he'd tell them to "FIX THE DAMN TAPE SPEED!"

No Candy 4 Me
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Reply #143 posted 10/22/19 5:40am

FrankieCoco1

It was played in full on Shaun Keaveny’s BBC 6Music show last Friday, along with an interview Michael Howe. It’s at about the 40 minute point in the show:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/pro...s/m0009d5m

Think it’s just accessible from the UK.
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Reply #144 posted 10/22/19 7:45am

Cinny

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This can be corrected when I spin the 45 on my Technics SL-1200. smile I didn't even notice though eek

Kares said:

The tape speed is totally off though, whomever transferred it from the original cassette didn't notice (or didn't care) that now it plays about 50 cents sharp (and faster) than it should. sad

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Reply #145 posted 10/22/19 10:39am

jfenster

mmm...79 rehearsal tape

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Reply #146 posted 10/23/19 3:44am

andrewm7

Just noticed a little detail on the estate site about the purple vinyl record:

"This Limited Edition 7” will be Made To Order and is exclusive to Prince.com - available to purchase for 7 days only. Production will commence at conclusion of onsale period and we anticipate shipping to take place in mid January."

So you only have until the 27th or 28th to order a copy eek

So if you are a collector it would be wise to act smile

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Reply #147 posted 10/24/19 2:27am

antonb

If you were a collector, you would already know this info, but thanks anyway
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Reply #148 posted 10/24/19 6:43am

andrewm7

lol ^the shade lol the estate seems to have sent out an email to everyone letting them know there is only three days left.

[Edited 10/24/19 6:48am]

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Reply #149 posted 10/25/19 4:46pm

wildgoldenhone
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