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Reply #30 posted 11/10/19 4:51pm

PeggyO

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



The civil case the heirs brought against the doctors and hospitals has been settled.

The only issue remaining is that Dr. Kornfeld was dismissed from the case and it is being appealed by the heirs.

The Kornfelds never touched or treated him, so I don't know if the heirs will get their way or not.

Why was Dr. Kornfeld's case not also dismissed "with prejudice"?

Could it be related to his son carrying Buprenorphine illegally?

Did the heirs likely receive settlements in the other 2 cases?

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Reply #31 posted 11/10/19 8:18pm

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PeggyO said:

PennyPurple said:

The Kornfelds never touched or treated him, so I don't know if the heirs will get their way or not.

Why was Dr. Kornfeld's case not also dismissed "with prejudice"?

Could it be related to his son carrying Buprenorphine illegally?

Did the heirs likely receive settlements in the other 2 cases?



Dr. Kornfeld was not dismissed "with prejudice" because the Judge ruled on the Motion to Dismiss and it wasnt by agreement of the parties.

The Judge found that the court did not have jurisdiction over Dr Kornfeld and Recovery Without Walls. It has nothing to do with his son carrying suboxone.

What other 2 cases?

All the cases have been settled between the parties.

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Reply #32 posted 11/10/19 10:11pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PeggyO said:

Why was Dr. Kornfeld's case not also dismissed "with prejudice"?

Could it be related to his son carrying Buprenorphine illegally?

Did the heirs likely receive settlements in the other 2 cases?



Dr. Kornfeld was not dismissed "with prejudice" because the Judge ruled on the Motion to Dismiss and it wasnt by agreement of the parties.

The Judge found that the court did not have jurisdiction over Dr Kornfeld and Recovery Without Walls. It has nothing to do with his son carrying suboxone.

What other 2 cases?

All the cases have been settled between the parties.

Thx for the info.

The other 2 cases I was referring to were Dr. S and the hospital

Re: the Kornfeld case, who's jurisdiction is it? No. Cal?

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Reply #33 posted 11/18/19 8:17pm

Arjuna

NEVER was a penny earned, by no one; who "claimed" a penny in the first place.
If you "all of ya" makin a penny, never tapped your foot to sing it, then how can ya "claim" it.

Silly...simple, fell off the wagon, riding the wave of fame;
But nobody on Earth, could ever "claim" the authors name...
Prince Rogers Nelson... the only Penny from heaven ever gained,
IN TRUTH.

Ya'll gonna pay for stealin.

The real Gold!
Take care, SingMia.
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Reply #34 posted 11/18/19 9:06pm

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NEVER was a penny earned, by no one; who "claimed" a penny in the first place. If you "all of ya" makin a penny, never tapped your foot to sing it, then how can ya "claim" it. Silly...simple, fell off the wagon, riding the wave of fame; But nobody on Earth, could ever "claim" the authors name... Prince Rogers Nelson... the only Penny from heaven ever gained, IN TRUTH. Ya'll gonna pay for stealin. The real Gold! Take care, SingMia.



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Reply #35 posted 11/19/19 2:33pm

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Arjuna said:

NEVER was a penny earned, by no one; who "claimed" a penny in the first place. If you "all of ya" makin a penny, never tapped your foot to sing it, then how can ya "claim" it. Silly...simple, fell off the wagon, riding the wave of fame; But nobody on Earth, could ever "claim" the authors name... Prince Rogers Nelson... the only Penny from heaven ever gained, IN TRUTH. Ya'll gonna pay for stealin. The real Gold! Take care, SingMia.


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Reply #36 posted 11/19/19 3:18pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

Arjuna said:

NEVER was a penny earned, by no one; who "claimed" a penny in the first place. If you "all of ya" makin a penny, never tapped your foot to sing it, then how can ya "claim" it. Silly...simple, fell off the wagon, riding the wave of fame; But nobody on Earth, could ever "claim" the authors name... Prince Rogers Nelson... the only Penny from heaven ever gained, IN TRUTH. Ya'll gonna pay for stealin. The real Gold! Take care, SingMia.


Were you the one they found hunting out behind Paisley?

eek lol

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Reply #37 posted 11/21/19 1:52pm

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The question has now been answered.

It appears that Tyka wants Primary Wave to become an interested party to the Estate because she has sold her 1/6 expectancy as an heir to Primary Wave.




eek eek

[Edited 11/21/19 13:56pm]

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Reply #38 posted 11/21/19 7:31pm

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The question has now been answered.

It appears that Tyka wants Primary Wave to become an interested party to the Estate because she has sold her 1/6 expectancy as an heir to Primary Wave.




eek eek

[Edited 11/21/19 13:56pm]

Primary Wave has 1/3 of the heirs now, Tyka and Alfred.

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Reply #39 posted 11/21/19 7:50pm

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nelcp777 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



The question has now been answered.

It appears that Tyka wants Primary Wave to become an interested party to the Estate because she has sold her 1/6 expectancy as an heir to Primary Wave.




eek eek

Primary Wave has 1/3 of the heirs now, Tyka and Alfred.



After looking at all the documents filed today by Primary Wave, it appears Tyka only sold a "portion" of her future inheritance.

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Reply #40 posted 11/22/19 4:00am

andrewm7

please excuse my ignorance, but who are "primary wave"

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Reply #41 posted 11/22/19 4:44am

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please excuse my ignorance, but who are "primary wave"

https://primarywave.com/about-pw/

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Reply #42 posted 11/22/19 4:48am

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Not sure that the heirs who have sold some of their share of the estate to Primary Wave have done the wrong thing. Managing the music of the estate has to be done by someone, the heirs can't do it themselves. Is there a better choice than this company out there? Not that what I think matters at all, but I have seen some people upset over this. Then again, some people are upset over every single thing the estate does rolleyes lol

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Reply #43 posted 11/22/19 4:52am

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nelcp777 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



The question has now been answered.

It appears that Tyka wants Primary Wave to become an interested party to the Estate because she has sold her 1/6 expectancy as an heir to Primary Wave.




eek eek

[Edited 11/21/19 13:56pm]

Primary Wave has 1/3 of the heirs now, Tyka and Alfred.

Oh WOW. How do they sell something that they don't even have yet?

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Reply #44 posted 11/22/19 6:46am

onlyforaminute

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Not sure that the heirs who have sold some of their share of the estate to Primary Wave have done the wrong thing. Managing the music of the estate has to be done by someone, the heirs can't do it themselves. Is there a better choice than this company out there? Not that what I think matters at all, but I have seen some people upset over this. Then again, some people are upset over every single thing the estate does rolleyes lol


Isn't that what Comerica was supposed to be?
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Reply #45 posted 11/22/19 6:58am

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https://www.lexology.com/...ecc172bb1f

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The Court was not convinced by Defendants arguments. First, the Court noted that the duty to preserve was not incumbent on the opposing party to serve a legal hold. The Court also seemed annoyed that Defendants would even try to argue that they did not know they had a duty to preserve text messages. The Court further noted that parties are responsible for their counsel’s conduct and that it was “baffled as to how Defendants can reasonably claim to believe that their text messages would be immune from discovery” given that Rule 34 clearly states that data from “any medium from which information can be obtained” is discoverable and that the way we communicate nowadays would put anyone on alert that the contents of our phones are indeed discoverable.

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Given the Court’s analysis that the Defendants intentional spoliation that caused prejudice to Plaintiffs, the Court also found that more than curative sanctions were appropriate. The Court fined Defendants and the employees $10,000 for the destruction of the text messages, in addition to paying all reasonable expenses incurred by Plaintiffs as a result of their misconduct. The Court declined to order an adverse inference instruction, though, because discovery was still on-going, and found it more appropriate to defer granting that sanction until trial was nearer.

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Reply #46 posted 11/22/19 7:14am

onlyforaminute

9th grade English please.
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Reply #47 posted 11/22/19 7:16am

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onlyforaminute said:

9th grade English please.

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That is not a level we need to stoop to.

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Reply #48 posted 11/22/19 8:17am

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This is not a new story even though it is dated as recent.

The Estate entered into a settlement agreement with these Defendants.

BartVanHemelen said:

https://www.lexology.com/...ecc172bb1f

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The Court was not convinced by Defendants arguments. First, the Court noted that the duty to preserve was not incumbent on the opposing party to serve a legal hold. The Court also seemed annoyed that Defendants would even try to argue that they did not know they had a duty to preserve text messages. The Court further noted that parties are responsible for their counsel’s conduct and that it was “baffled as to how Defendants can reasonably claim to believe that their text messages would be immune from discovery” given that Rule 34 clearly states that data from “any medium from which information can be obtained” is discoverable and that the way we communicate nowadays would put anyone on alert that the contents of our phones are indeed discoverable.

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Given the Court’s analysis that the Defendants intentional spoliation that caused prejudice to Plaintiffs, the Court also found that more than curative sanctions were appropriate. The Court fined Defendants and the employees $10,000 for the destruction of the text messages, in addition to paying all reasonable expenses incurred by Plaintiffs as a result of their misconduct. The Court declined to order an adverse inference instruction, though, because discovery was still on-going, and found it more appropriate to defer granting that sanction until trial was nearer.

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Reply #49 posted 11/22/19 3:14pm

onlyforaminute

udo said:



onlyforaminute said:


9th grade English please.

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That is not a level we need to stoop to.




Well ok something a little more straightforward than legalese. Not like that's going to happen but it was worth a try.
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Reply #50 posted 11/25/19 2:18pm

jfenster

so to the laymen ...what does this all mean? does this company get to decide what can be released??

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Reply #51 posted 11/25/19 8:00pm

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jfenster said:

so to the laymen ...what does this all mean? does this company get to decide what can be released??



No, Comerica is still the FINAL decision maker while the Estate is open.

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Reply #52 posted 11/26/19 11:38am

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Photographer sues Prince estate for copyright infringement


By Chris Cooke | Published on Tuesday 26 November 2019

A photographer who collaborated with Prince during the final few years of his life claims that the late musician’s estate has been exploiting her work without licence. Said photographer, Madison Dube, filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against the estate and its associated companies last week.


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Reply #53 posted 11/26/19 2:49pm

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Photographer sues Prince estate for copyright infringement


By Chris Cooke | Published on Tuesday 26 November 2019

A photographer who collaborated with Prince during the final few years of his life claims that the late musician’s estate has been exploiting her work without licence. Said photographer, Madison Dube, filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against the estate and its associated companies last week.


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why not sue for lost wages....why stop she want to stop her work from being used?

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Reply #54 posted 11/26/19 3:14pm

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What lost wages?

P paid her.

There wasnt a contract between her and Prince.

jfenster said:

luv4u said:

Photographer sues Prince estate for copyright infringement


By Chris Cooke | Published on Tuesday 26 November 2019






why not sue for lost wages....why stop she want to stop her work from being used?

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Reply #55 posted 11/27/19 11:32am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

What lost wages?

P paid her.

There wasnt a contract between her and Prince.

jfenster said:

why not sue for lost wages....why stop she want to stop her work from being used?

paid for use of her work in the future???

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