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Prince was an exceptional album editor... When you take into consideration what was available in vault you have to tip your hat & say he was mostly brilliant in putting together his albums & ruthless in his decision making. This applies not only to potential tracks he left off BUT also edits of tracks he put on. The immediate & obvious example being 1999 - there's not a single thing I would change on the final album - some incredible ones left over BUT he got it perfect. Same for P. Rain, SOTT, Emancipation & many others.
Anyone agree & if not name replacement tracks from the vaults for any albums , edits/extensions etc.
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I would not call Emancipation a masterclass in editing, tbh. I feel like running the clock to 60 minutes and using damn near all the material you recorded around that era is just egregious and something any musician could do. |
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i mostly agree, but I think he should have found room for Extraloveable and Moonbeams. |
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You've just contradicted 20+ years of running commentary on this website, so be prepared for random sniper fire. [Edited 11/30/19 19:27pm] |
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Prince was exceptional in a lot of things in the studio and on stage that he rarely if ever received credit 4. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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He really wasn't.
How many times did he torpodo an album by jamming a new song at it last minute or by torturing the songs with overproduction because he was bored of them? (Boytrouble on 3rdeyegirl, Baltimore on HNR2, Eye Wanna Melt With U on Symbol Album, all of Graffitti Bridge/Come/The Gold Experience)
There's some albums that are a coherent statement then there's some albums where it seems like he cobbled together albums out of leftover tracks (Lotusflow3r/20Ten/HNR2) Free the music, fire Michael Howe
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lucky? !!! |
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Let's go with 1999
I think he could've cut "Lady Cab Driver" and "Free" for "Irresistable Bitch" and "How Come You Don't Call me Anymore". It would have made the album even greater,
In fact he could have dropped "Critics Love You" for "Purple Music". Can you imagine? I dunno the original album is great as it is. |
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I am inclined to agree and have stated as much here lots of times. the more I actually hear material from the vaulted well, VAULT, the more I a appreciate his decision making process. for all the hate "Free" has always gotten, ppl fail to consider WHY it made the album. its his pre-pre millennial tension treatise at the height of the Cold War ("everybody has a bomb")and he was pondering the benefits of certain American liberties other countries don't have. More recently, his decision to keep International Lover instead of giving it to Morris made me appreciate his complex understanding and exploration of black masculinity (the song doesn't work for me with Morris' schick). Sure there are great tracks that we wish had found homes, but a great song doesn't automatically mean it makes the "album" recorded during its era. The "idea" of a B-side is a gift on this regard. Giving us "access" to gems like Irresistible or 17 Days from their eras as Bsides vs just cramming them on albums that in HIS mind didn't fit (he's the artist and curator of his own work; not us) were/are timeless treats. As for "versions" of songs, Computer Blue in its PR format is best, same for We Can Funk, The Dance, etc. Unless the vault reveals a collection of (and I strain to say) "cohesive" set of tracks from a scrapped album, I will continue to appreciate the "hits and misses" (Purple Music and All Day, All Nite, are the best for me so far)from The Vault as glimpses and gifts from a prolific genius who just couldn't stop making music [Edited 12/1/19 21:02pm] |
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To me,1999 is perfect exactly the way it is.And yes,I even love "Free"
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there's nothing that I would change about that album.So yeah,Prince was an exceptional album editor on that album.
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Gary shoulda steered clear of that Blind Dog Bourbon
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CUT LADY CAB DRIVER??!! That just made my heart hurt lol. Id take the axe to "Something in the Water.." or even "All the Critics..." before LCD, but thats just me.
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I think the masterclass in editing is Purple Rain. Not only within songs - Computer Blue, Darling Nikki, Purple Rain, and Let's Go Crazy come to mind - but also in leaving Erotic City and 17 Days off entirely. That album is cut to the bone, and as much as I prefer alternate, longer versions of songs, the 45 minute 9 song album feels both expansive and complete. |
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"torturing the songs" ??? | |
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1999 was perfect as it was presented. "Climb in my fur." | |
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did we ever find out the dipshit who decided to cut DMSR friom the original cd ? | |
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100% agree, same with ATWIAD & Lovesexy. |
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The demo?
A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home |
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