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Reply #30 posted 07/13/20 11:54pm

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Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...(week 26)
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#69 Purple Rain ( 42.000 copies)
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Reply #31 posted 07/14/20 3:29am

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It has definitely reached a MUST album status. It still sells better than many contemporary artists do.

RODSERLING said:

Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...(week 26) . #69 Purple Rain ( 42.000 copies)

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Reply #32 posted 07/14/20 4:56pm

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NoSwan said:

It has definitely reached a MUST album status. It still sells better than many contemporary artists do.

RODSERLING said:

Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...(week 26) . #69 Purple Rain ( 42.000 copies)

That is So Cool, 36 years after 1984 and its #69 in 2020! cool biggrin wildsign prince

Anyone know the Total sales so far 1984-2020?

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Reply #33 posted 07/15/20 10:27am

feeluupp

PURPLE RAIN needs to be receritified!!! Why is it still stuck at 13x Platinum last certified by RIAA in 1996.

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Reply #34 posted 07/15/20 11:32am

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Astasheiks said:



NoSwan said:


It has definitely reached a MUST album status. It still sells better than many contemporary artists do.





RODSERLING said:


Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...(week 26) . #69 Purple Rain ( 42.000 copies)




That is So Cool, 36 years after 1984 and its #69 in 2020! cool biggrin wildsign prince



Anyone know the Total sales so far 1984-2020?



In the US,16 millions and counting
Worldwide 23/24 millions
[Edited 7/15/20 11:32am]
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Reply #35 posted 07/15/20 11:48am

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Thanks Rodserling...

So it is still making Bank for The Estate or those Benefiting off of him having No Will!!! smile razz prince eye wildsign crysball beret

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Reply #36 posted 07/15/20 2:03pm

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RODSERLING said:

Astasheiks said:

That is So Cool, 36 years after 1984 and its #69 in 2020! cool biggrin wildsign prince

Anyone know the Total sales so far 1984-2020?

In the US,16 millions and counting Worldwide 23/24 millions [Edited 7/15/20 11:32am]

But it's only certified 13x Platinum by RIAA.

WB gave The Revolution their 13x Platinum plaques during the Purple Rain Super Deluxe release.

Should be certified 16x Platinum by now.

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Reply #37 posted 07/16/20 4:20am

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Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...(week 27)
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#68 Purple Rain (44.000 copies)
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Reply #38 posted 07/22/20 2:33pm

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Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...(week 28) :

#68 Purple Rain (46.000 copies)
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Reply #39 posted 07/25/20 11:58am

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Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...(week 28) :

#184 (20,000 copies) 1999 Prince (1,037,000 copies overall according to Soundscan)
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Reply #40 posted 07/25/20 8:25pm

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1999' sales history in the US :
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January 1983 : 0.5 Million (RIAA)
May 1983 : 1 million (RIAA)
July 1984 : 2.5 millions ( Variety)
July 1985 : 3 millions ( RIAA)
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September 1992 : 5 millions worldwide, so about 3.5 M in the US
March 1999 : 4 millions in the US ( RIAA) so an average of 70k/ a year.
This last certification was supposed to take into account music club sales.
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Between 1991 and 2005 : 640.000 copies sold in store ( Nielsen SoundScan), so an average of 42k ex./ a year, but with a big boost in 1998/99 with the re-release of the single.
So by January 2006: 4.3 millions sold in the US
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Between 2006 and 20, April 2016 : 153.000 copies sold, so an average of 15k/ a year.
2016 : 165.000 copies sold (!)
Between 2017 and 2019 : 60.000 copies sold, so an average of 20k/a year
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US total sales : 4.7 millions.
Far from the chartmaster estimations who put 1999 at 5.7 millions in the US.
It would take now another 15 years (!) at this cruisade speed, to reach the 5 millions mark...
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But a 5*Platinum could be reached soon with streaming added.
[Edited 7/25/20 20:44pm]
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Reply #41 posted 07/26/20 5:24am

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From Chart Masters:

1999 (1982)
  • America
    • US – 5,525,000
    • Canada – 200,000
    • Argentina – N/A
    • Brazil – N/A
    • Mexico – N/A
  • Asia – 210,000
    • Japan – 180,000
  • Oceania
    • Australia – 70,000
    • New Zealand – 25,000
  • Europe – 910,000
    • UK – 330,000
    • France – 125,000
    • Germany – 180,000
    • Italy – 15,000
    • Spain – 10,000
    • Sweden – N/A
    • Netherlands – 45,000
    • Switzerland – 20,000
    • Austria – 15,000
    • Finland – N/A
  • World – 7,010,000

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Reply #42 posted 07/26/20 5:37am

feeluupp

RODSERLING said:

1999' sales history in the US : . January 1983 : 0.5 Million (RIAA) May 1983 : 1 million (RIAA) July 1984 : 2.5 millions ( Variety) July 1985 : 3 millions ( RIAA) . September 1992 : 5 millions worldwide, so about 3.5 M in the US March 1999 : 4 millions in the US ( RIAA) so an average of 70k/ a year. This last certification was supposed to take into account music club sales. . Between 1991 and 2005 : 640.000 copies sold in store ( Nielsen SoundScan), so an average of 42k ex./ a year, but with a big boost in 1998/99 with the re-release of the single. So by January 2006: 4.3 millions sold in the US . Between 2006 and 20, April 2016 : 153.000 copies sold, so an average of 15k/ a year. 2016 : 165.000 copies sold (!) Between 2017 and 2019 : 60.000 copies sold, so an average of 20k/a year . US total sales : 4.7 millions. Far from the chartmaster estimations who put 1999 at 5.7 millions in the US. It would take now another 15 years (!) at this cruisade speed, to reach the 5 millions mark... . But a 5*Platinum could be reached soon with streaming added. [Edited 7/25/20 20:44pm]

I agree, I believe charmasters is a little too high, but I also believe it is just under 5 million in USA, and with the recent reissues, etc... should be at million soon.

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Reply #43 posted 07/26/20 5:43am

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feeluupp said:

From Chart Masters:



1999 (1982)

  • America
    • US – 5,525,000

    • Canada – 200,000

    • Argentina – N/A

    • Brazil – N/A

    • Mexico – N/A


  • Asia – 210,000
    • Japan – 180,000


  • Oceania
    • Australia – 70,000

    • New Zealand – 25,000


  • Europe – 910,000
    • UK – 330,000

    • France – 125,000

    • Germany – 180,000

    • Italy – 15,000

    • Spain – 10,000

    • Sweden – N/A

    • Netherlands – 45,000

    • Switzerland – 20,000

    • Austria – 15,000

    • Finland – N/A


  • World – 7,010,000



Knowing all the figures and sales I posted above, it is obvious Chartmaster added more than 800.000 sales in the US that never existed.
This is not the only album where he exxagerated US sales.
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Reply #44 posted 07/26/20 5:47am

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feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


1999' sales history in the US : . January 1983 : 0.5 Million (RIAA) May 1983 : 1 million (RIAA) July 1984 : 2.5 millions ( Variety) July 1985 : 3 millions ( RIAA) . September 1992 : 5 millions worldwide, so about 3.5 M in the US March 1999 : 4 millions in the US ( RIAA) so an average of 70k/ a year. This last certification was supposed to take into account music club sales. . Between 1991 and 2005 : 640.000 copies sold in store ( Nielsen SoundScan), so an average of 42k ex./ a year, but with a big boost in 1998/99 with the re-release of the single. So by January 2006: 4.3 millions sold in the US . Between 2006 and 20, April 2016 : 153.000 copies sold, so an average of 15k/ a year. 2016 : 165.000 copies sold (!) Between 2017 and 2019 : 60.000 copies sold, so an average of 20k/a year . US total sales : 4.7 millions. Far from the chartmaster estimations who put 1999 at 5.7 millions in the US. It would take now another 15 years (!) at this cruisade speed, to reach the 5 millions mark... . But a 5*Platinum could be reached soon with streaming added. [Edited 7/25/20 20:44pm]


I agree, I believe charmasters is a little too high, but I also believe it is just under 5 million in USA, and with the recent reissues, etc... should be at million soon.





Knowing the physical market is decreasing year after year, I highly doubt it.
But maybe in less than 5 years, with streaming added, it could reach that 5 million mark.
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But WB doesn't certify its albums anymore for years, Prince is not an isolated case.
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Reply #45 posted 07/26/20 1:21pm

feeluupp

Do you have the sales for The Very Best Of Prince... That should be over 3 million by now in USA, but only stands at 1 million by RIAA.

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Reply #46 posted 07/27/20 7:46am

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TVBOP sales in the USA:
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2001/2009 : 1.650.000 copies scanned
2010/2019 : 1.270.000
Total sold in stores : 2.920.000
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Maybe it sold a little something in the music club between 2001/2004, but who knows?
Maybe it would allow it to reach the magical 3 millions in pure sales.
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By the way, in 2016 alone TVBoP generated an extra 500.000 " sales" With streaming ( at the time only Tidal!). As of now, maybe it generated an extra 100.000 "sales" Since then.
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So now that RIAA officially count streaming in certifications, TVBOP is T 3.5 millions ( sales + streaming), so it could be recertified at 3*Platinum for sure.
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Reply #47 posted 07/29/20 9:19pm

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Since there is a debate whether or not Prince sold over 100 million albums; we might remember that USA for Africa(we are the world) Album sold 20 million. Prince had a song on that album which gives prince 20 million more in sales.

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Reply #48 posted 07/29/20 9:46pm

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Since there is a debate whether or not Prince sold over 100 million albums; we might remember that USA for Africa(we are the world) Album sold 20 million. Prince had a song on that album which gives prince 20 million more in sales.



When 3121 was released, Prince sold already 100 millions albums.
There is no debate here.
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But no the We Are The World album sold "only" 3/4 millions in the US and wasn't a success everywhere ( it reached only #31 in the UK)
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Reply #49 posted 07/31/20 7:02am

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Best selling albums in the US in 2020 so far...( week 29)
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#69 Purple Rain ( 48.000)
#185 1999 (20.000)
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Reply #50 posted 08/06/20 2:37am

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Best selling album in the US in 2020 so far...(week 30) :
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#1 Folklore - Taylor Swift (615.000 copies sold, achieved in only one week!)
#52 Thriller - Michael Jackson (62.000)
#71 Purple Rain- Prince (50.000)
#189 1999 - Prince (20.500)
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Reply #51 posted 08/06/20 3:42am

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Thank you Rod.

We are living strange times indeed... With 500 physical copies sold in a week you can enter the top 200...

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Reply #52 posted 08/06/20 4:05am

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NoSwan said:

Thank you Rod.

We are living strange times indeed... With 500 physical copies sold in a week you can enter the top 200...


Well, that is cumulative. 1999 probably isn't among the 200 albums that sold most copies in the past week, but it has accumulated the 189th most sales across all weeks of 2020.

Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #53 posted 08/06/20 4:18am

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NoSwan said:

Thank you Rod.

We are living strange times indeed... With 500 physical copies sold in a week you can enter the top 200...



Yes, like Moonbeam said it s cumulative sales.
What mislead you was maybe the fact that Folklore's Taylor Swift sold 615.000 in a week, becoming the best selling album of the year, as of now!
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Reply #54 posted 08/06/20 7:00am

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Yes, I saw that, thanks. Taylor Swift has one of the largest fanbase in the world for a pop star, so it doesn't surprise me that much, even if selling more than half a million copy nowadays is a sort of record, indeed.

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Reply #55 posted 08/06/20 10:50pm

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RODSERLING said:

NoSwan said:

Thank you Rod.

We are living strange times indeed... With 500 physical copies sold in a week you can enter the top 200...

Yes, like Moonbeam said it s cumulative sales. What mislead you was maybe the fact that Folklore's Taylor Swift sold 615.000 in a week, becoming the best selling album of the year, as of now!

The SOTT remaster will likely sell at least 10,000 copies in the first week (Which amounts to approx 100,000 copies sold, no? I mean there are 8 cds and 13 lps don't they count as a individual unit sales still? In the past they did. see Emancipation)

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Reply #56 posted 08/07/20 3:20am

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kewlschool said:



RODSERLING said:


NoSwan said:

Thank you Rod.

We are living strange times indeed... With 500 physical copies sold in a week you can enter the top 200...



Yes, like Moonbeam said it s cumulative sales. What mislead you was maybe the fact that Folklore's Taylor Swift sold 615.000 in a week, becoming the best selling album of the year, as of now!

The SOTT remaster will likely sell at least 10,000 copies in the first week (Which amounts to approx 100,000 copies sold, no? I mean there are 8 cds and 13 lps don't they count as a individual unit sales still? In the past they did. see Emancipation)



Multiple CDs whose sum total is an average of at least 50 minutes count as multiple ceetifications. Not vinyls.
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It was the sales for the certifications that counted multiple CDs, but not sales for the charts.
For instance, if Emancipation sold 170.000 in a week, it was certified for 500.000 ex. (3*170.000) but would still be counting "only" 170.000 copies in the charts.
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A SDE with more than 50% of new content ( and here it s like 300% of new content) would be counted in the certification for this deluxe edition only.
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But sadly, WB is not certifying anymore its albums.
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But theorically you re right : the SOTT super deluxe could sell just 60.000 copies to be certified Gold. This would be not impossible :
Originals sold 70.000 copies last year including more than the half with the SDE, (that consisted by the way of two times the same album ( vinyl + CD).
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But IIt s obvious the music industry doesn't care anymore.
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