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VaultCurator

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Prince: The Story of Sign O’ The Times, Episode 3: The Quake

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Reply #1 posted 09/10/20 12:05am

Ramzoo

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Thanks! Listening 2 it right now.

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Reply #2 posted 09/10/20 12:24am

ForceofNature

Oh very cool, thanks for posting. Enjoyed the previous 2 episodes so far and was stoked for more

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Reply #3 posted 09/10/20 12:26am

themanfromnept
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It seems the only snippet of unreleased songs is Everybody Want What They Don't Got

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Reply #4 posted 09/10/20 12:39am

Ramzoo

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themanfromneptune said:

It seems the only snippet of unreleased songs is Everybody Want What They Don't Got

Right. Too much talk (no snippets...it's torture to wait 15 days!) even if it's interesting to hear.

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Reply #5 posted 09/10/20 1:33am

Vannormal

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That's what I like about these podcasts.

The music needs to remain unheard until it's release. OK, that's my mho of course.

I understand the urge to hear it all right now.

Prince loved mysteries and teased us so many times.

See it as an old school tease. wink

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So he had send a package of his favourites 'spare-ribs' from Minneapolis to L.A. by plane... ?

Weird guy, or just too rich. smile

Love the Larry Waronker story about the UTCM film preview.

So he ran, took off, and started to work harder?!

(I'm happy (now) for this movie. It gave us so many things like 'wreckastow' etc.)

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Another thing, something I think of a lot, how the hell did he recorded songs all by his own so fast?

So apparently when he plays the acoustic drums, he plays it all alone said Susan Rodgers.

How amazing is that ! Hearing it all in his head already, everything; beginning, arrangements, end.

Fucking amazing and mind blowing.

And that he could slice tape ! Cool. smile

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A good thing Gilbert came in with that L.A. Times newspaper, on Sunday July 13, 1986.

By Wednesday July 16, (maybe) the whole idea of cutting the tripple album to the known SOTT was actually born, when he finished that song...

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Did Prince ever held a diary ?

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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
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Reply #6 posted 09/10/20 2:43am

jaawwnn

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A great listen smile

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Reply #7 posted 09/10/20 3:17am

OnlyNDaUsa

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so good...SOTT (the song) still changes my brain...

and they ruin it with this lady... she goes way too far into her own ideology...

[Edited 9/10/20 3:24am]

I stand with Ben and the Moderators!
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Reply #8 posted 09/10/20 3:36am

jstar69

Excellent episode. Loved it. Fascinating!
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Reply #9 posted 09/10/20 4:25am

jaawwnn

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

so good...SOTT (the song) still changes my brain...

and they ruin it with this lady... she goes way too far into her own ideology...

[Edited 9/10/20 3:24am]

whattya mean Only?

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Reply #10 posted 09/10/20 5:28am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

so good...SOTT (the song) still changes my brain...

and they ruin it with this lady... she goes way too far into her own ideology...

[Edited 9/10/20 3:24am]

Yeah. I was thinking 'WTF IS THIS???'.

"I like to watch."
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Reply #11 posted 09/10/20 5:31am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

so good...SOTT (the song) still changes my brain...

and they ruin it with this lady... she goes way too far into her own ideology...

[Edited 9/10/20 3:24am]

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Reply #12 posted 09/10/20 6:17am

Vannormal

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

so good...SOTT (the song) still changes my brain...

and they ruin it with this lady... she goes way too far into her own ideology...

[Edited 9/10/20 3:24am]

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I'm looking forward to read her text though.

Thought it was very interesting, and to the point.

It shines a light on things, that, as a European I'm not always aware of.

Great stuff.

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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
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Reply #13 posted 09/10/20 7:17am

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© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
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Reply #14 posted 09/10/20 7:19am

laytonian

Here's the text:

https://www.thecurrent.or...-episode-3

Sorry, Bart. By the time I grabbed the link and came back here, edited it to make it clickable, you'd already posted it. (My page does not have a link emoji so I have to put the URL coding in by hand).
GMTA,perhaps.

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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #15 posted 09/10/20 7:54am

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folks are about to have a field day with this professor lady

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Reply #16 posted 09/10/20 7:59am

donnyenglish

Good podcast. I'm hoping they talk to Miko and others eventually. Here is what Miko said on his facebook page about the topic:

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

he was never a jerk during my time with him!

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

not all true if you were in the room like I have been

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

This is all so funny for me! I'm there since 1983 and know much more than what I've read by people who weren't in the same room including past engineers. Which many times on many tracks I've seen only himself working the controls that the engineers set up and then asked to leave! Many have forgotten that I was actually there with him

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

it was all him! Others where just others! People crying now mega years late? Pat's on the back bullshit! I'm sad because he can't tell his side of the story but I can but don't want to call folks liars!

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

confirmed? By a witness or a book? I'm sorry to say that he has told me things directly to my face! Maybe you too as well?

Miko Mixamillion Weaver

Why should anyone care about credits unless one's ego needs feeding and a pat on the funking back!

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Reply #17 posted 09/10/20 8:18am

JoeyCococo

Come on Miko...just get on a podcast with Michael Dean or the Peach and Black Podcasters and give us your input. You already have credibility in that you've been silent forever.

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Reply #18 posted 09/10/20 9:21am

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Great but why is it censored? Beep beep beep.
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Reply #19 posted 09/10/20 9:40am

Strive

Ugh, that professor. Please fuck off with that nonsense.

"When you deny people the option to not pick a side, you may not like the side they'll pick."
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Reply #20 posted 09/10/20 9:50am

AvocadosMax

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Ugh, that professor. Please fuck off with that nonsense.


Yep as toxic and polarizing as politics is, we don’t need to hear that shit lol
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Reply #21 posted 09/10/20 10:06am

donnyenglish

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Ugh, that professor. Please fuck off with that nonsense.

I don't think it was nonsense. I do think that it was a bit misplaced and perhaps forced. I don't consider SOTT to be an album where he addressed race issues. I do think that SOTT was a concerted effort to distance himself from the pop image that had become his brand, but he did not really tackle race directly on the album the way he did later in his life. With that said, he did tackle social issues in general on the album so I understand getting a scholar to talk about what was going on at the time. Looking forward to hearing from the black folks that were in the band, in the studio, etc. in the future episodes.

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Reply #22 posted 09/10/20 10:12am

RJOrion

i used to live in the apartment bldg over Rudolph's Rib joint/Bar...on the corner of Franklin and Lyndale...i used to see Jellybean and Monte and Jessie there alot... never saw Prince... cant believe he would fly their food out to LA... Ted Cooks (E. 38th) ribs are/were WAY better than Rudolph's and they have beef or pork... Rudolphs just had swine ribs...i thought P didnt eat the swine?
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Reply #23 posted 09/10/20 10:15am

PRNelson

This episode was one of those moments where you are starkly reminded of not only how GREAT Prince was but also how taken for granted we, as fans, have become. Prince is the GOAT.
You'll never know a girl called Nikki and you'll never find Erotic City
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Reply #24 posted 09/10/20 10:29am

laytonian

RJOrion said:

i used to live in the apartment bldg over Rudolph's Rib joint/Bar...on the corner of Franklin and Lyndale...i used to see Jellybean and Monte and Jessie there alot... never saw Prince... cant believe he would fly their food out to LA... Ted Cooks (E. 38th) ribs are/were WAY better than Rudolph's and they have beef or pork... Rudolphs just had swine ribs...i thought P didnt eat the swine?


Prince favored Rudolph's because he lived across the street at one time...and cashed his checks there. Early days checks, obviously.

Later, he went through vegetarian, vegan, back to vegetarian and then pescatarian with added daily eggs.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #25 posted 09/10/20 10:30am

JoeyCococo

donnyenglish said:

Strive said:

Ugh, that professor. Please fuck off with that nonsense.

I don't think it was nonsense. I do think that it was a bit misplaced and perhaps forced. I don't consider SOTT to be an album where he addressed race issues. I do think that SOTT was a concerted effort to distance himself from the pop image that had become his brand, but he did not really tackle race directly on the album the way he did later in his life. With that said, he did tackle social issues in general on the album so I understand getting a scholar to talk about what was going on at the time. Looking forward to hearing from the black folks that were in the band, in the studio, etc. in the future episodes.

I found this one a bit boring...the professor had some interesting point but I couldn't help but think Prince would have rolled his eyes and turned it all off smile

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Reply #26 posted 09/10/20 10:33am

RJOrion

laytonian said:

RJOrion said:

i used to live in the apartment bldg over Rudolph's Rib joint/Bar...on the corner of Franklin and Lyndale...i used to see Jellybean and Monte and Jessie there alot... never saw Prince... cant believe he would fly their food out to LA... Ted Cooks (E. 38th) ribs are/were WAY better than Rudolph's and they have beef or pork... Rudolphs just had swine ribs...i thought P didnt eat the swine?


Prince favored Rudolph's because he lived across the street at one time...and cashed his checks there. Early days checks, obviously.

Later, he went through vegetarian, vegan, back to vegetarian and then pescatarian with added daily eggs.

now that you mention it, i do remember reading Owen Husney say he set up P in his first apt on Franklin Ave and bought him some instruments...didint know it was on the Uptown End of Franklin Ave though...i lived there from 93 - 96, well after P lived in the neighborhood... i think at that time Jellybean was part owner of Rudolph's if im not mistaken.

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Reply #27 posted 09/10/20 10:54am

laytonian

RJOrion said:

laytonian said:


Prince favored Rudolph's because he lived across the street at one time...and cashed his checks there. Early days checks, obviously.

Later, he went through vegetarian, vegan, back to vegetarian and then pescatarian with added daily eggs.

now that you mention it, i do remember reading Owen Husney say he set up P in his first apt on Franklin Ave and bought him some instruments...didint know it was on the Uptown End of Franklin Ave though...i lived there from 93 - 96, well after P lived in the neighborhood... i think at that time Jellybean was part owner of Rudolph's if im not mistaken.


I'd have to ask Marty about Jellybean BUT even the official Prince website talks about that place in the Becoming Prince subpages:

https://becoming.prince.c...apartment/

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #28 posted 09/10/20 11:01am

RJOrion

laytonian said:

RJOrion said:

now that you mention it, i do remember reading Owen Husney say he set up P in his first apt on Franklin Ave and bought him some instruments...didint know it was on the Uptown End of Franklin Ave though...i lived there from 93 - 96, well after P lived in the neighborhood... i think at that time Jellybean was part owner of Rudolph's if im not mistaken.


I'd have to ask Marty about Jellybean BUT even the official Prince website talks about that place in the Becoming Prince subpages:

https://becoming.prince.c...apartment/

eek thanks for that link...never saw that website before

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Reply #29 posted 09/10/20 11:18am

Strive

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Strive said:

Ugh, that professor. Please fuck off with that nonsense.

I don't think it was nonsense. I do think that it was a bit misplaced and perhaps forced. I don't consider SOTT to be an album where he addressed race issues. I do think that SOTT was a concerted effort to distance himself from the pop image that had become his brand, but he did not really tackle race directly on the album the way he did later in his life. With that said, he did tackle social issues in general on the album so I understand getting a scholar to talk about what was going on at the time. Looking forward to hearing from the black folks that were in the band, in the studio, etc. in the future episodes.

It really is nonsense. It's pretty clear that Sign O The Times is continuation of Prince's long held belief that we are (or in his case, were) living in the end days.

The professor even ponders outloud "Oh we made such strives...but it's a system designed to forever oppress black and brown people...the 1980s were such a boom for the black community...but the [republican] politicans in charge cemented their anti-black structual changes"

She has a set idea in her head and tries to bend all the facts to match her viewpoint. Ironically, it's a viewpoint designed to disempower and otherize minorities. The polar opposite of what Prince believed and pushed for.

There's a reason why Prince told the crowd at his Baltimore concert that he wanted to stay in a hotel they owned the next time he came back. Because Prince didn't view any system as having the ability to hold him back or his community.

I have to put this bible verse at the end because the code here is bizzare. When I try to add it higher up, it puts quote around my whole post.

Mark 13:7-8

When you hear of wars and reports of wars do not be alarmed; such things must happen, but it will not yet be the end. Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes from place to place and there will be famines. These are the beginning of the labor pains.

"When you deny people the option to not pick a side, you may not like the side they'll pick."
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