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Reply #30 posted 10/05/20 10:29pm

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love2thenines2003 said:

muleFunk said:

Parade Deluxe.

I hope to see that but I have doubts.... from what I hear from some birds...the Parade SPDL.would be cancelled again ...so?

Super Parade Deluxe is the most logical choice as the next one to do.

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Reply #31 posted 10/06/20 7:37am

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Smittyrock70 said:



Germany


OFFIZIELLE ALBUM TOP 100




3


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Sign 'O' The Times

Prince





SOTT originally peaked at #17 in Germany. The only other best peak position of Prince in this country was Batman, peaking at #3 too. This new peak is really impressive.

You can't compare record sales in the 1980ies with todays market situation. Back then you had to sell MANY more records to enter the top 10 than nowadays. I wouldn't be surprised if the album sold better in the week were it peaked at #17 than last week.

We need total numbers, not chart positions.

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Of course.
But you seem to forget the 2020 german charts,as every charts in the world nowadays, includes not only pure sales, but also STREAMING.
And streaming sales accounts now for 80/90% of total sales
So this new peak at #3 is still very incredible, especially if you compare the original #17.
Moreover, I m sure SOTT made more money in Germany last week, than in its original week of release in 1987.
So this is even more amazing.
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Reply #32 posted 10/07/20 4:52am

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#20 on Billboard 200

After 3 decades

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Reply #33 posted 10/07/20 7:15pm

ludwig

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Moreover, I m sure SOTT made more money in Germany last week, than in its original week of release in 1987. So this is even more amazing.

I'm not so sure about that.

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Reply #34 posted 10/07/20 8:08pm

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Would be interesting to see if the sales of the deluxe set make the RIAA certify it at 2x Platinum in USA as it is stated to have sold over 1.6 million in USA alone.

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Reply #35 posted 10/07/20 8:22pm

feeluupp

RIAA still has SOTT as 1x Platinum, but Chartmasters including sales plus streaming has it as

  • US – 2,550,000 sold...
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Reply #36 posted 10/08/20 9:28pm

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RODSERLING said:


Moreover, I m sure SOTT made more money in Germany last week, than in its original week of release in 1987. So this is even more amazing.

I'm not so sure about that.



Back in 1987, a #17 was like 15.000 copies at the most.
Knowing SOTT deluxe sold about 7/8000 copies in the UK, charting at #7, it is reasonnable to assume it sold the same amount in Germany with a #3 rank.
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And SOTT deluxe cost 8 to 16 times more than the original release, so do the maths...
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Reply #37 posted 10/09/20 6:59am

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ludwig said:

RODSERLING said:

Smittyrock70 said: SOTT originally peaked at #17 in Germany. The only other best peak position of Prince in this country was Batman, peaking at #3 too. This new peak is really impressive.

You can't compare record sales in the 1980ies with todays market situation. Back then you had to sell MANY more records to enter the top 10 than nowadays. I wouldn't be surprised if the album sold better in the week were it peaked at #17 than last week.

We need total numbers, not chart positions.

[Edited 10/5/20 15:21pm]

But surely you also need to compare the album in the time it's selling in. There are raw numbers, but it's also relative.

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Reply #38 posted 10/09/20 7:10am

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love2thenines2003 said:

muleFunk said:

I heard it's in the pipeline along with two more.

From Duane Tudahl (last interview in french magazine Funku) «Of course, I can't reveal the content of the next project, but the Prince Estate is working on something unexpected, surprising, profound and very complete. Prince has recorded so much music, and I think we'll be talking about these reissues for the next twenty or thirty years, if not more.» Any guesses ?


Tell Me How U Wanna Be Done (Josh Welton Remaster) excited

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Reply #39 posted 10/10/20 5:24am

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Really strange that SOTT didn t make the top 200 last week in France.
It was #2 in Belgium, #3 in Germany, #7 in UK, so I m sure it should have made the top 10 ( sales+streaming).
The first ordered copies sold fast in stores (7 copies sold the first day) where I live and they ordered abd received new copies. It was #5 on Amazon.fr...
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So my interprétation of this is that only simple copies of SOTT (2+3 cds and vinyles) were counted in that charts. Not the 9 and 14 discs version.
This must be a barcode problem.
Really not cool at all, and a top ten position for Prince has just been stolen.
[Edited 10/10/20 5:26am]
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Reply #40 posted 10/10/20 6:20am

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RODSERLING said:

Really strange that SOTT didn t make the top 200 last week in France.
It was #2 in Belgium, #3 in Germany, #7 in UK, so I m sure it should have made the top 10 ( sales+streaming).
The first ordered copies sold fast in stores (7 copies sold the first day) where I live and they ordered abd received new copies. It was #5 on Amazon.fr...
.
So my interprétation of this is that only simple copies of SOTT (2+3 cds and vinyles) were counted in that charts. Not the 9 and 14 discs version.
This must be a barcode problem.
Really not cool at all, and a top ten position for Prince has just been stolen.
[Edited 10/10/20 5:26am]


Last week SOTT entered the Italian Top 100 Album Chart at n.38, this week evaporated... From the other side, one should consider that this list is full of Italian trash trap phenomena...
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Reply #41 posted 10/10/20 6:57am

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NoSwan said:

RODSERLING said:

Really strange that SOTT didn t make the top 200 last week in France.
It was #2 in Belgium, #3 in Germany, #7 in UK, so I m sure it should have made the top 10 ( sales+streaming).
The first ordered copies sold fast in stores (7 copies sold the first day) where I live and they ordered abd received new copies. It was #5 on Amazon.fr...
.
So my interprétation of this is that only simple copies of SOTT (2+3 cds and vinyles) were counted in that charts. Not the 9 and 14 discs version.
This must be a barcode problem.
Really not cool at all, and a top ten position for Prince has just been stolen.
[Edited 10/10/20 5:26am]


Last week SOTT entered the Italian Top 100 Album Chart at n.38, this week evaporated... From the other side, one should consider that this list is full of Italian trash trap phenomena...


But SOTT NEVER entered the french charts
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Reply #42 posted 10/10/20 7:35am

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It's so nice to see this kind of success for the box set. I still think "Forever In My Life (Early Vocal Run-Through) should have been a single pushed at radio as an edit which would have been helped even more.

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Reply #43 posted 10/10/20 8:16am

leecaldon

RODSERLING said:

NoSwan said:
Last week SOTT entered the Italian Top 100 Album Chart at n.38, this week evaporated... From the other side, one should consider that this list is full of Italian trash trap phenomena...
But SOTT NEVER entered the french charts

I'm just looking on Wikipedia, and they don't list the French charts at all for albums and singles.

Did he never chart there?

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Reply #44 posted 10/10/20 8:54am

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RODSERLING said:


NoSwan said:
Last week SOTT entered the Italian Top 100 Album Chart at n.38, this week evaporated... From the other side, one should consider that this list is full of Italian trash trap phenomena...

But SOTT NEVER entered the french charts

I'm just looking on Wikipedia, and they don't list the French charts at all for albums and singles.



Did he never chart there?



Of course it charted in 1987(#24 best sellling album of the year) and in 2016 at#61.

Wikipédia is not comprehensive at all.
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Reply #45 posted 10/10/20 10:57am

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SOTT is now out for its second week, of the official uk charts, that combines sales + streaming.
But it is #47 on the sales charts (-43!) and #27 in the vinyl charts.
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Reply #46 posted 10/10/20 6:38pm

ludwig

In germany the album dropped from #3 to #46.


http://www.mtv.de/charts/70tgrf/album-top-100

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Reply #47 posted 10/10/20 10:23pm

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In Belgium ( Flanders) it fell from #2 to #20.
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Reply #48 posted 10/14/20 1:12pm

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Billboard 200 for the second week of SOTT:
#173 (-153!) 59th week since 1987
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But in the sales charts :
#21 (-14)
#69 Purple Rain
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Best selling albums in the US so far :
#68 Purple Rain (66.000)
#197 1999 (25.000)
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Reply #49 posted 10/15/20 10:10am

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God bless America :
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Best selling albums in the US so far in 2020 ( sales only, not streaming), week 40
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#69 Purple Rain (68.000) - total SoundScan sales since 1991 : 3.998.000
#183 SOTT (29.000) - total SS : 437.000
# 199 1999 (26.000) - total SS : 1.043.000.
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So in its second week SOTT sold about 11.000 copies. Not bad at all !
Edit : in fact, I forgot the obvious : these are of course the sales for the whole year. So before even before the SOTT SDE was released, the original album must have been sold like 5.000 copies.
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So, last week, estimated sales at about 5/6.000 copies.
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Reply #50 posted 10/16/20 10:05am

leecaldon

RODSERLING said:

leecaldon said:

I'm just looking on Wikipedia, and they don't list the French charts at all for albums and singles.

Did he never chart there?

Of course it charted in 1987(#24 best sellling album of the year) and in 2016 at#61. Wikipédia is not comprehensive at all. [Edited 10/10/20 8:54am]

That sounds more like it. I wonder why they don't list his French chart history.

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Reply #51 posted 10/16/20 11:08am

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SOTT is now out of the top 100 sales albums in the UK.
It was #47 last week, after peaking at #4 the week before.
Ouch.
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Reply #52 posted 10/16/20 11:24am

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In Belgium it stays steady for its 3rd week :
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Chartrun :2-20-21
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Reply #53 posted 10/16/20 1:46pm

ludwig

After two weeks the album disappeared from the german top 100 album charts.

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Reply #54 posted 10/16/20 8:43pm

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RODSERLING said:

SOTT is now out of the top 100 sales albums in the UK. It was #47 last week, after peaking at #4 the week before. Ouch.

That's good numbers for a high priced box set in an era where full albums don't sell well.

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Reply #55 posted 10/17/20 11:09am

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kewlschool said:

RODSERLING said:

SOTT is now out of the top 100 sales albums in the UK. It was #47 last week, after peaking at #4 the week before. Ouch.

That's good numbers for a high priced box set in an era where full albums don't sell well.

I'm not sure how many weeks anyone expected a boxset like this, costing 10x a regular album, to hang around in the charts for. I'm sure it will chug away for a long time to come - a few people might be getting it as a gift the next few months.

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Reply #56 posted 10/23/20 10:43pm

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3rd week of re-release in the USA :
Billboard 200 : out
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Top 100 album sales :
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#38 (-17) SOTT (3.000 copies)
#84 (-15) Purple Rain (2.000 copies)
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Best selling albums in 2020 so far (week 41)

# 69 Purple Rain (70.000). Total SoundScan sales : 4.000.000 (!)
#170 Sign O The Times (32.000). Total SS : 440.000
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Reply #57 posted 10/23/20 10:56pm

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In Belgium it stays steady for its 4th week.
Chartrun : 2-20-21-26
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Netherlands : after being out of the top 100, it renters at #68.
Chartrun : 2-70-out-68.
Based on its 48 weeks-chartrun since 1987, SOTT is the 541th best selling album of all time in Netherlands.
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Reply #58 posted 10/23/20 10:58pm

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Swiss chartrun for the reissue : 3-38-82.
Will it stay for a 4th week in the top 100? Wait for it...
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Reply #59 posted 10/23/20 11:01pm

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Austria chartrun : 7-out-50
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