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Reply #30 posted 11/03/20 1:53pm

funkbabyandthe
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RJOrion said:

so, people that never spent time with a man, or as much as held a conversation with a man, can somehow diagnose this stranger from afar, as having a "mid-life crisis"? .... a supremely successful and accomplished man at that.. word?



Let's hope you never pass opinion on anyone unless an exam has been sat first

Hope you're not into politics

'No I can't say anything about this candidate... I have never met him'
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Reply #31 posted 11/03/20 2:01pm

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RJOrion said:

so, people that never spent time with a man, or as much as held a conversation with a man, can somehow diagnose this stranger from afar, as having a "mid-life crisis"? .... a supremely successful and accomplished man at that.. word?

Apparently Prince suffered from a midlife crisis for over 20 years! lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #32 posted 11/03/20 2:34pm

rednblue

purplethunder3121 said:

RJOrion said:

so, people that never spent time with a man, or as much as held a conversation with a man, can somehow diagnose this stranger from afar, as having a "mid-life crisis"? .... a supremely successful and accomplished man at that.. word?

Apparently Prince suffered from a midlife crisis for over 20 years! lol

Proud to say I've been even more prolific than Prince in churning out mid-life crisis years. lol

Can really only describe my own "mid-life crisis."

My family likes to point out extreme nostaligia for teenage years: I'm busy adoring an artist that burst onto the national scene when I became a teen.

They point out that I'm a classic case of woman in her 50's who starts doing that middle-life teen-nostalgia-obsession thing.

But they're confused. Can't re-start when it never stopped.

Prince music obsession's been going non-stop for 40 years.

Anyway, I say if a family talks about a mid-life crisis, that's a good sign. Probably just means a fine job's being done of embarrassing the teenagers.

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Reply #33 posted 11/03/20 2:36pm

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This assumes that P had a mid life crisis. Or that mid life crisis is even a thing. He defintely had some personal crises. But... I don't know. Weird to possibly inappropriate topic.

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Reply #34 posted 11/03/20 2:57pm

RJOrion

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

RJOrion said:

so, people that never spent time with a man, or as much as held a conversation with a man, can somehow diagnose this stranger from afar, as having a "mid-life crisis"? .... a supremely successful and accomplished man at that.. word?



Let's hope you never pass opinion on anyone unless an exam has been sat first

Hope you're not into politics

'No I can't say anything about this candidate... I have never met him'
[Edited 11/3/20 13:55pm]



if u notice i dont speak on politics
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Reply #35 posted 11/03/20 2:57pm

rednblue

JudasLChrist said:

This assumes that P had a mid life crisis. Or that mid life crisis is even a thing. He defintely had some personal crises. But... I don't know. Weird to possibly inappropriate topic.


For better or for worse, occasional mentions of mid-life crisis among my family and friends are pretty tongue in cheek.

Not to say there are no useful ideas in the IMO pretty amorphous concept, but if any of these individual ideas get talked about more seriously, we use different words.

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Reply #36 posted 11/03/20 3:17pm

funkbabyandthe
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RJOrion said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:



Let's hope you never pass opinion on anyone unless an exam has been sat first

Hope you're not into politics

'No I can't say anything about this candidate... I have never met him'
[Edited 11/3/20 13:55pm]



if u notice i dont speak on politics


Not sure how you can speak on anyone if the criteria is you have to know them well first
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Reply #37 posted 11/03/20 3:19pm

rednblue

TrcikyChristopher said:

laytonian said:


2011 was after his hip surgery; it sounds like that did him no good at all.

Correct. He needed a full replacement of both hips, not a repair. That's why Morris Day mentioned his own hip replacement to P when he performed at Paisley. P was in a world of pain outside of any other health issues he had which were never disclosed. One hip was much worse than the other and was basically bone-on-bone by the time he passed. [Edited 11/3/20 12:29pm]

Bone-on-bone. sad

Do you know if there was anything Prince could turn to (opiate pain relievers or otherwise) that could do anything to alleviate the pain when it had become that severe?

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Reply #38 posted 11/03/20 3:20pm

funkbabyandthe
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rednblue said:



JudasLChrist said:


This assumes that P had a mid life crisis. Or that mid life crisis is even a thing. He defintely had some personal crises. But... I don't know. Weird to possibly inappropriate topic.




For better or for worse, occasional mentions of mid-life crisis among my family and friends are pretty tongue in cheek.

Not to say there are no useful ideas in the IMO pretty amorphous concept, but if any of these individual ideas get talked about more seriously, we use different words.



Mid life crisis is not a scientific term (obv)
But everyone knows what the term means when it is used

And for those of you wondering if it can last 15-16 years, it can, yes
https://www.webmd.com/dep...pportunity
A midlife crisis might occur anywhere from about age 37 through the 50s, he says.
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Reply #39 posted 11/03/20 3:26pm

rednblue

funk, Didn't mean to imply any criticism of the term you chose for discussion. Discussions don't all have to revolve around super-precise professional terminology approved by committees and such.

In fact, my long post here more in the latter vein was probably over the top. biggrin

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

rednblue said:

Mid life crisis is not a scientific term (obv) But everyone knows what the term means when it is used And for those of you wondering if it can last 15-16 years, it can, yes https://www.webmd.com/dep...pportunity
A midlife crisis might occur anywhere from about age 37 through the 50s, he says.

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Reply #40 posted 11/03/20 3:26pm

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

rednblue said:

Mid life crisis is not a scientific term (obv) But everyone knows what the term means when it is used And for those of you wondering if it can last 15-16 years, it can, yes https://www.webmd.com/dep...pportunity
A midlife crisis might occur anywhere from about age 37 through the 50s, he says.

This simply states that it might occur between 37 and 50 something--not that it can last 15 to 17 years. lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #41 posted 11/03/20 3:35pm

funkbabyandthe
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I'm surrounded by pedants!
In my original post I said I was suggesting the period,not defining it precisely
However....
Just because one has experienced a midlife crisis for lets say, 10 years, it doesn't mean it has been resolved per se by the end of it
That stage can take longer and continue after the actual crisis period
razz
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Reply #42 posted 11/03/20 3:51pm

Margot

Prince was a celebrity and lived a life that was quite a bit different than most of ours.

His peers were other celebrities.

I think he obviously had some crises in his life but they were not likely mid-life crises in the way that

some of us would experience.

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Reply #43 posted 11/03/20 4:03pm

Derek880

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Derek880 said:

I don't think he had a "mid life" crisis. Like many of us, he changed and grew as he got older. The most notable part is that, in spite of what fans and critics wanted to force-feed people about his ethnicity, he was always a Black man, and you could see him surround himself with the musicians and influences from his youth. I personally loved the way he showed love to Black women during those years. People tend to internalize cultural values as they age. It was beautiful seeing him at shows with Shelby and Liv. I think he enjoyed being around people that truly got who he was at that point in his life.

do you mean he got rid of his internalised values as he got older?

surrounding yourself with ppl from your youth is good in one sense, for security, friendship, comfort, familiarity, etc, but not always best for creativity and progression.

i think he only really got people from his youth in the early to mid 90s anyway.

id like to hear from his collaborators in the later years.

theyve been pretty silent.

rhonda for example.

No. He never got rid of his views or values. But I think what many people miss as they follow his career is the moves that he made for the sake of "cross-over". No one will ever convince me that he saw the Revolution as the "best" musicians he ever played with. From a business standpoint, he knew exactly what he was doing in order to get media attention and to be played on white stations and MTV. Just like Sly Stone did. Once he no longer needed that, (even though he was genre-less), he disbanded them, evolved the NPG bands, went back to his funk and R&B roots and ended up with bands full of some extremely incredible musicians. That's when he finally let himself loosen up. A lot of the collaborators have things to say, but many of the media stories are so obsessed with the 80s that all we hear are Revolution voices. There was a podcast recently with Levi that was one of the best I've heard so far. It was incredible to hear new stories about a more laid-back Prince who was basically recording almost a song a day with the NPG.

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Reply #44 posted 11/03/20 4:05pm

Margot

rednblue said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

laytonian said: Correct. He needed a full replacement of both hips, not a repair. That's why Morris Day mentioned his own hip replacement to P when he performed at Paisley. P was in a world of pain outside of any other health issues he had which were never disclosed. One hip was much worse than the other and was basically bone-on-bone by the time he passed. [Edited 11/3/20 12:29pm]

Bone-on-bone. sad

Do you know if there was anything Prince could turn to (opiate pain relievers or otherwise) that could do anything to alleviate the pain when it had become that severe?

Not to veer off-topic too much, but the video of Prince with Dr. S on 4/20 shows no signs of limping or 'favoring' one side or the other. He was walking with brisk stride without cane/walker. Likely not bone-on- bone.

Most people take anti-inflammatory agents for hip pain, ie., Motrin, Advil, Naprosyn, Celebrex (precript).

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Reply #45 posted 11/03/20 4:09pm

rednblue

On a related but different subject, I wouldn't be surprised if celebrity adds to, or puts a different spin on, some stuff that happens with aging.

Celebrity might add some challenges to getting to be "of a certain age,"...probably, at least in some fields, a bit more for women than for men.

Then there's the idea of celebrities who are young and "the hot new thing," (or pretty close to it : ) ), and the idea of the revered legacy artist. There's the sometimes awkward space in between these ideas.

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Reply #46 posted 11/03/20 4:16pm

rednblue

Margot said:

rednblue said:

Bone-on-bone. sad

Do you know if there was anything Prince could turn to (opiate pain relievers or otherwise) that could do anything to alleviate the pain when it had become that severe?

Not to veer off-topic too much, but the video of Prince with Dr. S on 4/20 shows no signs of limping or 'favoring' one side or the other. He was walking with brisk stride without cane/walker. Likely not bone-on- bone.

Most people take anti-inflammatory agents for hip pain, ie., Motrin, Advil, Naprosyn, Celebrex (precript).


Thanks for this.

Just anecdotes, but both my parents both had hip surgery within the past few years, and happy to say that both did fine on the medications you listed for surgery recovery and any pain they experienced before they had surgery.

My mom has had a more difficult time with her feet. She has a good deal of arthritis and deformity. Some bone-on-bone. From what we can understand, she doesn't seem to have as many good options to deal with that situation. Maybe she'll opt for the foot surgery route one day. Anyway, I'll stop talking about this now, but do appreciate learning that most people get through hip pain with anti-inflammatories.

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Reply #47 posted 11/03/20 4:22pm

Margot

  • Most of us have no clue about the reality of his life.

  • Can any of us relate to entertaining and controlling a crowd of 20.000+?
  • Making and spending millions of dollars year after year?
  • Having willing partners at any time?
  • having a staff?
  • Rubbing elbows with celebrities
  • touring on private jets
  • Living in lavish homes

I just don't think a middle-class, mid-life crisis referred to him.

He was not better nor worse, just lived in a different galaxy.

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Reply #48 posted 11/03/20 9:44pm

udo

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rednblue said:

udo said:

His midlife crisis was around when he died.

He chose not to take proper care of his body at a point where money would have been no issue.

This points to severe distraction from what really counts at that time.

First of all, not to say I feel you are being unduly harsh, but as I'm unsure of your point of view...

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What is harsh about concluding about confusion and not takeing proper care of his body as a result?

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Personal responsiblity is always a thing in life, but in the vast majority of cases, individuals suffering from severe health conditions are true victims. Same with their loved ones...family and friends up against very formidable conditions affecting a loved one.

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Does suffering from severe health conditions alter their ability to think?

And what `severe` condition did Prince have?

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Got a question about TIMING, as you characterize this problem with APPROPRIATE care being accessed as being a problem limited to the time around when Prince died. How does that fit with ealier indications?

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Well, that is easy.

At this time he died.

That means the consufion must have been at its height.

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Do you think any significant medical condition from which Prince may have suffered going back years was being treated appropriately in earlier years?

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I do not know what he really suffered from. Let alone what he may have suffereed from.

I do know about the death situation.

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A person could self-medicate with good overall result.

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Sure, but why ar these pain killers regulated?

Why did he try to evade that?

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I am NOT saying I have evidence that Prince had mood or immune disorder. I'm giving these conditions as an example of questions that may need to be asked/evaluated when looking to one of the criteria for substance use disorder (threshold level of net negative life effect).

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Thanks.

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Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #49 posted 11/03/20 11:19pm

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

Derek880 said:



funkbabyandthebabysitters said:




Derek880 said:


I don't think he had a "mid life" crisis. Like many of us, he changed and grew as he got older. The most notable part is that, in spite of what fans and critics wanted to force-feed people about his ethnicity, he was always a Black man, and you could see him surround himself with the musicians and influences from his youth. I personally loved the way he showed love to Black women during those years. People tend to internalize cultural values as they age. It was beautiful seeing him at shows with Shelby and Liv. I think he enjoyed being around people that truly got who he was at that point in his life.



do you mean he got rid of his internalised values as he got older?


surrounding yourself with ppl from your youth is good in one sense, for security, friendship, comfort, familiarity, etc, but not always best for creativity and progression.


i think he only really got people from his youth in the early to mid 90s anyway.



id like to hear from his collaborators in the later years.


theyve been pretty silent.


rhonda for example.





No. He never got rid of his views or values. But I think what many people miss as they follow his career is the moves that he made for the sake of "cross-over". No one will ever convince me that he saw the Revolution as the "best" musicians he ever played with. From a business standpoint, he knew exactly what he was doing in order to get media attention and to be played on white stations and MTV. Just like Sly Stone did. Once he no longer needed that, (even though he was genre-less), he disbanded them, evolved the NPG bands, went back to his funk and R&B roots and ended up with bands full of some extremely incredible musicians. That's when he finally let himself loosen up. A lot of the collaborators have things to say, but many of the media stories are so obsessed with the 80s that all we hear are Revolution voices. There was a podcast recently with Levi that was one of the best I've heard so far. It was incredible to hear new stories about a more laid-back Prince who was basically recording almost a song a day with the NPG.



So in short, yes, he shed his internalised values as he got older.

Tbh, that aside, you're obv not wrong.

Its just, was that 'relaxed' prince writing better songs than that 'crossover' prince? You tell me. I def dont think the revolution was his best band (that's the 87-88 band.) as for black women, or darker skinned women in his bands, you must have missed boni boyer and rosie gaines from 87 to 1992.

Princes commercial instincts never stopped even as he got older. The reason he made emancipation 3 discs was he learned that MJ got more sales recorded on the History release as it was a double disc set. Prince decided to go one better. You think he only went more rnb as he got older cos he got more relaxed? No, it was also that rnb and rap were commercially dominating. Also, prince just couldn't write inventive pop songs anymore. i also object to this idea that prince only tried to mix up his sound or broached rock because he was courting a white audience/knew he had to do make it in the mainstream - prince just LIKED rock music. and that was a political point - showing that black artists could do other genres outside of what was expected. you think if prince only incorporated rock into his music to make it big, he would have done things like the undertaker album in 1994 or the hitnrun tours in the 2010s? i dont think so.

But as Alan Leeds said, and to bring it back to this idea of a mid life lull, he retreated from trying to keep up after a certain point and just went into a kind of retro route as he got older. Made himself a keeper of the old school rnb flame. On one hand thats maybe smart. On the other hand, I do think that's a sign of ageing. You can say that's not a mid life crisis exactly, but its def a mid life.... period of uncertainty. And yes he had a celeb lifestyle, but many ppl wonder about their lives, careers, relationships etc as they enter middle age. I dont think prince was any different.
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Reply #50 posted 11/04/20 1:38am

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The Artist himself gave the answer in Q magazine in september 1998:
"I'm having a mid life crisis!" he crows. "I feel 16. I'm with my teenage idol."
O tempora! O mores!
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Reply #51 posted 11/04/20 2:20am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

The Artist himself gave the answer in Q magazine in september 1998: "I'm having a mid life crisis!" he crows. "I feel 16. I'm with my teenage idol."

thank you sir.

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Reply #52 posted 11/04/20 5:39am

Vannormal

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SexyMuthaF said:

Prince was never in a crisis, because as a JW age was irrelevant to him.

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I am rolling on the floor, laughing out loud !

That's it, I'm becoming a JHW.

Yeehaw !

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #53 posted 11/04/20 6:41am

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rednblue said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

do you mean he got rid of his internalised values as he got older?

surrounding yourself with ppl from your youth is good in one sense, for security, friendship, comfort, familiarity, etc, but not always best for creativity and progression.

i think he only really got people from his youth in the early to mid 90s anyway.

id like to hear from his collaborators in the later years.

theyve been pretty silent.

rhonda for example.


Have you heard/read these interviews with Rhonda Smith? I really enjoyed them. However, don't know if they have the focus you're looking for in interviews.

https://youtu.be/kOu8loKCODI


https://youtu.be/4ude0LRxGKQ


https://www.facebook.com/TRUTHINRHYTHM/posts/1076872146043459


http://www.apurpledayindecember.com/2019/01/get-yo-groove-on-interview-with-rhonda.html?fbclid=IwAR1vEyrB5if_O4RqB-jc3Qx9ZprrPGLr4B62az3fuaAN8N4r0dJmFwOnI_8.

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The first one is an interesting interview.

Halfway the interveiew she sayd that when she started out with Prince, Paisley Park was full of people. There were people busy everywhere in the building and the offices were filled with workers.

By the time she left, and that's 2009, Paisley park was just empty !

And by that she said it was either Prince and his cook, or just one employee coming in to work on some stuff for a day or two and then it was empty again.

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I did not know that, and find that intriguing ;

either he wasn't able to pay so much people anymore,

or, he did not want too many people around him cause he started to live there ?

Can anyone confirm that?

When did Prince start to live in Paisley Park ?

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #54 posted 11/04/20 6:44am

rednblue

Thank you for your response! Your original comment is no longer visible. Here is what you noted:


"His midlife crisis was around when he died.

He chose not to take proper care of his body at a point where money would have been no issue.

This points to severe distraction from what really counts at that time."


In your response you asked, "What is harsh about concluding about confusion and not takeing proper care of his body as a result?"

Only have a little time now, but as a partial response, I wasn't sure if you thought some person(s) was entirely to blame for "distraction/confusion" With taking care, medical stuff, etc., sometimes it's not that everything (or most things) are some person(s) fault. I appreciate your "distraction/confusion" description, and meant it when I said you might not be coming at the situation solely (or even at all) from a condemnation angle. I'm sorry if what I said implied otherwise. Should have made it clearer that I didn't know where you were coming from.

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Additionally, to state the obvious and depending on the condition and particulars, medicine has limits of knowledge and ability to help. In this case, medicine may well have had something useful to offer above and beyond what was accessed.

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You also asked:


"Does suffering from severe health conditions alter their ability to think?

And what `severe` condition did Prince have?"

To the first question, some conditions can affect thinking.

For anyone who thinks multiple accounts of people who knew Prince are worth anything, there are reports of significant pain present at various times. Many people who mention this describe that they find a probable relationship between spectacular punishing stage performance and pain. Dr. S said that Prince asked him about numbness in hands and other areas.

Some who knew Prince believe there is evidence to suggest a significant substance use condition.

Some think there was evidence for other conditions.
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In response to this,


Got a question about TIMING, as you characterize this problem with APPROPRIATE care being accessed as being a problem limited to the time around when Prince died. How does that fit with ealier indications?

.

you noted:

"Well, that is easy.

At this time he died.

That means the consufion must have been at its height."

Another question with your response:

.

Do you think any significant medical condition from which Prince may have suffered going back years was being treated appropriately in earlier years?

.

"I do not know what he really suffered from. Let alone what he may have suffereed from.

I do know about the death situation."



An anecdote of one person seeing the height of "distraction/confusion" not being near time of death. That is, if I'm understanding part of your meaning with "distraction/confusion"...

There was a radio DJ/show-host in our town who shared that he had lung cancer thought to be terminal. He shared (as he had in the past) that he had quit smoking over a decade before, but he believed that many years of past smoking contributed to his vulnerability to the cancer. He played some great music, and hosted some great community town-hall style discussions. He is missed.


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Have to go now...sorry for partial response at this point. Thanks again for your response. : )

udo said:

rednblue said:

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Sure, but why ar these pain killers regulated?

Why did he try to evade that?

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I am NOT saying I have evidence that Prince had mood or immune disorder. I'm giving these conditions as an example of questions that may need to be asked/evaluated when looking to one of the criteria for substance use disorder (threshold level of net negative life effect).

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Thanks.

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Reply #55 posted 11/04/20 8:07am

funkbabyandthe
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Vannormal said:



rednblue said:




funkbabyandthebabysitters said:



do you mean he got rid of his internalised values as he got older?


surrounding yourself with ppl from your youth is good in one sense, for security, friendship, comfort, familiarity, etc, but not always best for creativity and progression.


i think he only really got people from his youth in the early to mid 90s anyway.



id like to hear from his collaborators in the later years.


theyve been pretty silent.


rhonda for example.






Have you heard/read these interviews with Rhonda Smith? I really enjoyed them. However, don't know if they have the focus you're looking for in interviews.

https://youtu.be/kOu8loKCODI


https://youtu.be/4ude0LRxGKQ


https://www.facebook.com/TRUTHINRHYTHM/posts/1076872146043459


http://www.apurpledayindecember.com/2019/01/get-yo-groove-on-interview-with-rhonda.html?fbclid=IwAR1vEyrB5if_O4RqB-jc3Qx9ZprrPGLr4B62az3fuaAN8N4r0dJmFwOnI_8.


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The first one is an interesting interview.


Halfway the interveiew she sayd that when she started out with Prince, Paisley Park was full of people. There were people busy everywhere in the building and the offices were filled with workers.


By the time she left, and that's 2009, Paisley park was just empty !


And by that she said it was either Prince and his cook, or just one employee coming in to work on some stuff for a day or two and then it was empty again.


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I did not know that, and find that intriguing ;


either he wasn't able to pay so much people anymore,


or, he did not want too many people around him cause he started to live there ?


Can anyone confirm that?


When did Prince start to live in Paisley Park ?


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Also worth remembering how much pp needed to run month to month

Maybe with no staff and little activity it cost less

But I'd imagine it was still expensive to keep

Shame as he had a lot of money over the years

I'm sure it could have worked out better

He just didnt hire the right ppl or want to take advice from the right ppl

More in control, sure but to what end
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Reply #56 posted 11/04/20 9:53am

Margot

Prince had his home in Chanhassen razed in 2005. He then moved temporarily to LA in 2006.

Not certain when that ended but it would seem that Paisley became his permanent abode after

2007? Some say he had another home in Chanhassen somewhere??

I wish he had had better staff infrastructure in place., ie., long-term, trustworthy manager, lawyer,

assistants. It seemed to be a revolving door.

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Reply #57 posted 11/05/20 3:37pm

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

Here's another classic midlife crisis trait: facing doubts over your masculinity

Sound familiar?

razz wink lol
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Reply #58 posted 11/05/20 3:58pm

alphastreet

I definitely got an uncle vibe from him on tour in 2011. I would imagine he was going through a lot after his child’s loss, and it resulted in the rainbow children type of music and returned to form in 2004 cause he seemed like himself musically again, but that’s just my theory. We can’t possibly know if he really went through one
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Reply #59 posted 11/05/20 5:53pm

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rednblue said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

laytonian said: Correct. He needed a full replacement of both hips, not a repair. That's why Morris Day mentioned his own hip replacement to P when he performed at Paisley. P was in a world of pain outside of any other health issues he had which were never disclosed. One hip was much worse than the other and was basically bone-on-bone by the time he passed. [Edited 11/3/20 12:29pm]

Bone-on-bone. sad

Do you know if there was anything Prince could turn to (opiate pain relievers or otherwise) that could do anything to alleviate the pain when it had become that severe?

I told people after his passing that he had problems beyond what was known.

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