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Thread started 11/21/20 8:10pm

RODSERLING

Has Sony given up on physical re-releases?

Strange that Sony didn't re-release CB98 this year.
Especially for Christmas, since it would have been an expensive 6 or 7 Vinyl boxset ( depending on if Kamasutra is included).
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Sony released only one thing this year, the ONA box-set.
I know things were hampered down by Covid, but I can't see how they opted not to benefit from Christmas sales.
I think WB would have rather release SOTT deluxe in November to benefit from Christmas sales, so clearly there was an open corridor given to Sony they chose not to take.
They must be very late on their planning of re-releases, that should have ended next year.
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CB98 would have been a complementary release to SOTT SDE, and make one benefits from the other.
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Still no words on it, so it won't be out until at least February now.
An at least 10 months pause maybe means they reconsidered the physical re-releases.
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I think the good money would have been on a " The Hits 3", before re-releasing anything.
But with the TMBGITW interminable lawsuit, they maybe had enough invading stores with obscure vinyl re-releases that doesn't sell that much.
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Reply #1 posted 11/21/20 8:53pm

RODSERLING

The Hits 3 :
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Musicology
Lovesign
TMBGITW
I hate U
Dinner With Delores
Betcha By Golly Wow
The Holy River
TGRES
She Loves Me 4Me
Call My Name
Cinnamon Girl
Blacksweat
Fury
Guitar
FallinLove2Night
Gold
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And of course, additional bonus disc with b sides ( Rocknroll is alive) , remixes, U make my sun shine, a music video compilation, etc.
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Reply #2 posted 11/21/20 9:27pm

TrivialPursuit

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With a $300+ box set plus a limited edition set of singles, and other stuff, they were smart to not release anything lest it be largely ignored. In 2020, SOTT SDE was quite enough to worry about paying for, much less a bunch of redundant gimmicky already-got-it releases.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #3 posted 11/21/20 9:45pm

RODSERLING

TrivialPursuit said:

With a $300+ box set plus a limited edition set of singles, and other stuff, they were smart to not release anything lest it be largely ignored. In 2020, SOTT SDE was quite enough to worry about paying for, much less a bunch of redundant gimmicky already-got-it releases.



I m sorry but many orgers are complaining about the missing tracks from CB in the SOTT deluxe.
So since there will be a Parade SDE next year, you presume Sony won't release anything because WB releases a 300$ box-set?
That doesn't make sense at all.
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And then, if WB is releasing a 300$ box-set of Graffiti Bridge in 2022, Batman in 2023, and Purple Rain again in 2024, do you think Sony will gently wait until 2025 to re release anything?
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Moreover, Sony has to release many albums that were never in stores in the first place : C-Note, Xpectation, Chocolate Invation, Slaughter House, Kamasutra?
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Reply #4 posted 11/22/20 1:01am

funkbabyandthe
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Only re release crystal ball if it has better artwork
Hideous.
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Reply #5 posted 11/22/20 2:57am

leecaldon

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Only re release crystal ball if it has better artwork Hideous.

They could utilise the online artwork.

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Reply #6 posted 11/22/20 3:06am

RODSERLING

leecaldon said:



funkbabyandthebabysitters said:


Only re release crystal ball if it has better artwork Hideous.


They could utilise the online artwork.




What was it?
I agree the artwork is terible
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Reply #7 posted 11/22/20 4:49am

cooldayla

RODSERLING said:

The Hits 3 : . Musicology Lovesign TMBGITW I hate U Dinner With Delores Betcha By Golly Wow The Holy River TGRES She Loves Me 4Me Call My Name Cinnamon Girl Blacksweat Fury Guitar FallinLove2Night Gold . And of course, additional bonus disc with b sides ( Rocknroll is alive) , remixes, U make my sun shine, a music video compilation, etc.

Doesn't a Hits release need to hits on it?

This has 3, not enough for an EP.

Musicology

TMBGITW

Call my name

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Reply #8 posted 11/22/20 6:40pm

jfenster

Maybe they thought it would not sell with. People buying sign?
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Reply #9 posted 11/22/20 10:18pm

RODSERLING

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Maybe they thought it would not sell with. People buying sign?


But "people" Will always buy something else.
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Reply #10 posted 11/23/20 3:28am

funkbabyandthe
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who would buy a re release of CB anyway?

it was a botched release with awful artwork, no sense of a plan to its tracklisting, no care, and annoyinglhy overloud mastering.

who needs to buy it again?

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Reply #11 posted 11/23/20 4:07am

RODSERLING

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

who would buy a re release of CB anyway?


it was a botched release with awful artwork, no sense of a plan to its tracklisting, no care, and annoyinglhy overloud mastering.


who needs to buy it again?



Me, since I didn't buy it in the first place.
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And if there is Kamasutra and the War in it, it could be more interesting.
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And many NPGMC albums were never released in stores, so there is a lot to release.
Why didn't they released that in the first place, instead of Emancipation, etc.
They were too confident IMO.
[Edited 11/23/20 4:08am]
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Reply #12 posted 11/23/20 4:32am

jfenster

They can rerelease CB with CB 2 and videos from CB 1
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Reply #13 posted 11/23/20 4:32am

funkbabyandthe
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the estate taking over is a chance to do it again, and better.

shame they didnt include some of the 86 era tracks on the SOTT SDE but hoping if and when they get around to the mid 90s, they include these songs there, so people dont have to buy CB again.

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Reply #14 posted 11/23/20 5:40am

leecaldon

cooldayla said:

RODSERLING said:

The Hits 3 : . Musicology Lovesign TMBGITW I hate U Dinner With Delores Betcha By Golly Wow The Holy River TGRES She Loves Me 4Me Call My Name Cinnamon Girl Blacksweat Fury Guitar FallinLove2Night Gold . And of course, additional bonus disc with b sides ( Rocknroll is alive) , remixes, U make my sun shine, a music video compilation, etc.

Doesn't a Hits release need to hits on it?

This has 3, not enough for an EP.

Musicology

TMBGITW

Call my name

There are more hits in there. Gold went Top 10 in the UK, The Holy River and Betcha were Top 20, plus Letitgo also was.

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Reply #15 posted 11/23/20 6:34am

jdcxc

They are prolly timing the release after SOTT...but I NEED a new Crystal Ball set. So many underrated GEMS in this set.

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Reply #16 posted 11/23/20 7:19am

RODSERLING

leecaldon said:



cooldayla said:




RODSERLING said:


The Hits 3 : . Musicology Lovesign TMBGITW I hate U Dinner With Delores Betcha By Golly Wow The Holy River TGRES She Loves Me 4Me Call My Name Cinnamon Girl Blacksweat Fury Guitar FallinLove2Night Gold . And of course, additional bonus disc with b sides ( Rocknroll is alive) , remixes, U make my sun shine, a music video compilation, etc.


Doesn't a Hits release need to hits on it?


This has 3, not enough for an EP.


Musicology


TMBGITW


Call my name









There are more hits in there. Gold went Top 10 in the UK, The Holy River and Betcha were Top 20, plus Letitgo also was.



I hate U went #12 on the Billboard despite an half week of sales.
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Reply #17 posted 11/23/20 8:00am

Krid

RODSERLING said:

The Hits 3 : . Musicology Lovesign TMBGITW I hate U Dinner With Delores Betcha By Golly Wow The Holy River TGRES She Loves Me 4Me Call My Name Cinnamon Girl Blacksweat Fury Guitar FallinLove2Night Gold . And of course, additional bonus disc with b sides ( Rocknroll is alive) , remixes, U make my sun shine, a music video compilation, etc.

"I got too many hits" Prince once boasted in concert - alas, not on this compilation idea biggrin

[Edited 11/23/20 8:01am]

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Reply #18 posted 11/23/20 2:00pm

lastdecember

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There was alot on the PRINCE releases this year, just the SOTT box, but also lets not forget that a few weeks later a limited vinyl on RSD, not too mention the ONA box, the vinyl issues and cd one the dvd etc... Emancipation Planet Earth Musicology etc....not sure if this year was not actually overloaded with Prince stuff to be honest. At this point i would love to see something rare and not a reissue from SONY also I would like to see these proteges get issued again, even if there are no bonuses, i think it is time to get Vanity 6, Apollonia 6, The Time stuff out there, The Family Jill Jones this needs to be looked more into. There are a few labels that have been doing reissues and securing rights to artists alot from the 80's one label is called Rock Candy another is Golden Legion Music and another is Rubellan Remasters, they have done everyone from Rock bands like Night Ranger and Rick Springfield to Laura Branigan and Berlin and Sheena Easton, they get the masters often add a few mixes or bsides and even get much more in depth books, so far they are strictly CD issuing but at this point Id take a remasterd Jill Jones or The family with artwork and new intereviews and maybe a 12" mix or two on there.


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Reply #19 posted 11/23/20 6:53pm

WhisperingDand
elions

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cooldayla said:

RODSERLING said:

The Hits 3 : . Musicology Lovesign TMBGITW I hate U Dinner With Delores Betcha By Golly Wow The Holy River TGRES She Loves Me 4Me Call My Name Cinnamon Girl Blacksweat Fury Guitar FallinLove2Night Gold . And of course, additional bonus disc with b sides ( Rocknroll is alive) , remixes, U make my sun shine, a music video compilation, etc.

Doesn't a Hits release need to hits on it?

This has 3, not enough for an EP.

Musicology

TMBGITW

Call my name

Average fan of popular muzic wayyyy more likely to know "Black Sweat" over any Musicology singles....

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Reply #20 posted 11/23/20 10:12pm

RODSERLING

Krid said:



RODSERLING said:


The Hits 3 : . Musicology Lovesign TMBGITW I hate U Dinner With Delores Betcha By Golly Wow The Holy River TGRES She Loves Me 4Me Call My Name Cinnamon Girl Blacksweat Fury Guitar FallinLove2Night Gold . And of course, additional bonus disc with b sides ( Rocknroll is alive) , remixes, U make my sun shine, a music video compilation, etc.



"I got too many hits" Prince once boasted in concert - alas, not on this compilation idea biggrin

[Edited 11/23/20 8:01am]


You re wrong, terribly wrong...
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Reply #21 posted 11/24/20 1:49am

databank

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It's not far fetched to assume it has to do with COVID-19. It's likely a certain number of these rerelease's purchases were impulse purchases in wrecka stores, particularly when it comes to vinyls. I certainly saw these albums being very much present in every record store I visited here in Berlin as well as in France last year, suggesting the stores market is still very much alive for this type of products. My guess is they probably assume it's wise to wait until people go back to shopping normally before they release any more.

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Reply #22 posted 11/24/20 3:44am

Krid

RODSERLING said:

Krid said:

"I got too many hits" Prince once boasted in concert - alas, not on this compilation idea biggrin

[Edited 11/23/20 8:01am]

You re wrong, terribly wrong...

I like these songs - however, to call them "hits" would probably be far-fetched from my point of view - at least if you compare them with the previous hits. Only exception really is TMBGITW - yes that was a hit.

But hey, I am not saying these are bad songs, only the word "hit" is probably used differently by the general public.

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Reply #23 posted 11/24/20 3:52am

RODSERLING

Krid said:



RODSERLING said:


Krid said:




"I got too many hits" Prince once boasted in concert - alas, not on this compilation idea biggrin


[Edited 11/23/20 8:01am]



You re wrong, terribly wrong...


I like these songs - however, to call them "hits" would probably be far-fetched from my point of view - at least if you compare them with the previous hits. Only exception really is TMBGITW - yes that was a hit.



But hey, I am not saying these are bad songs, only the word "hit" is probably used differently by the general public.



A song is a hit when it reach the top40.
Many songs on the Hits 1 and 2 were far from achieving the same success than, let's say, Gold or Holy River.
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Reply #24 posted 11/24/20 9:25am

steakfinger

I wish they'd release it only to get a non-brick walled version. The audio on CB98 sucks anus. I'd like Movie Star without Jam O' The Year quietly sucking in the background of the intro, but that's not going to happen.

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Reply #25 posted 11/24/20 9:26am

steakfinger

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

who would buy a re release of CB anyway?

it was a botched release with awful artwork, no sense of a plan to its tracklisting, no care, and annoyinglhy overloud mastering.

who needs to buy it again?

I've heard Sony releases have addressed the brick walling. Planet Earth, for example, supposedly sounds much better, though that might only be the vinyl. I personally have no use for vinyl. If the album (Planet Earth), didn't suck so back I might grab one to check.

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Reply #26 posted 11/24/20 12:07pm

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I have a feeling the CB issue on cd or vinyl or both might have an issue with rights since WB might own rights to some of that earlier work that Prince submitted

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Reply #27 posted 11/24/20 1:29pm

databank

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

who would buy a re release of CB anyway?

it was a botched release with awful artwork, no sense of a plan to its tracklisting, no care, and annoyinglhy overloud mastering.

who needs to buy it again?

It is, in fact, a carefully, wonderfully sequenced record that flows remarkably well. I'm quite surprised that, after 22 years, some people still haven't made it past the "he mixed tracks from different eras" first impression. It took me about one week to figure that out at the time.

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Reply #28 posted 11/24/20 1:31pm

databank

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lastdecember said:

I have a feeling the CB issue on cd or vinyl or both might have an issue with rights since WB might own rights to some of that earlier work that Prince submitted

No, or that would be true with Rave as well, and Sony rereleased it. If WB had had to claim that material, they'd have had to do it back then. It's too late now, it belongs to the Estate.

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